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NOVA EXPRESS Miit> 12, IJ*?".

\fir ffitftfhh'f of Adrift ft Vrtili is iit'fp Hi^nio ^ajift^ns fttshion. He's tvafkiatf fowarrls

t;ami rich. jHied with n tpantnh J nic. h is snf ik' som ewhert' heUeeen diukie ( 'oogan
fmfftt'l (inrirtiitHe<i as the Jfi Itc'd
and d.FK., stiekiun out a hand thnt yrips mine
tnTiiUfi^d fon'i^n'ii mvfirnfhtfrum thrhlfittk aiiiff stronijty enough to aiakemvyiad it'sfrimdiij. He

ntihitftir skf/ tnn'fints thr (ffniffrn>tis(ff sttnill- fjhiuers Unfurds the yipu nasi um a'tttdows. oul-

Uwf(tf>ktn(fh{iirkhifphi'K itf hfudithf ^tnp, st't mUt sidt' \rfufh a Ntzzftrd seisms to he rommeneuig

wnsthi'ftnii*\sH pof':k in fa/' iirftntx Thi' i^tffilsntpt' and smites again.

hiird ftrtfi mid, (no biff tn (fH fn r/nY^.v w'^th. and / "iV*j/ the sort ofsnatv you'rv u.sed la in CtUifor-

snmvrrp**rtf'ff nnt<ii the of (Utii tfntn tvhftYi ufit. Mi: Rothy

Uvechiidsr tif i}i it. A eoke joke! Adrian Veidt, Ozyfreakin*man-
dias himself has just tald me a eoke joke!
Thrpianf wa^s met at Ihv landintjuinp hy fkn^e

f^ntffusuisfitaftff fnrndfij Vh'hiamf'Kf nfrri trho W}^iooti-ee! WeJhU easily into eon versa tieifi from

U'H trie hi'fvrcfi ahrlisks fifffrtrk futtriiit' tvith mll- that point on, antt after he/s dressed iu' takes me

ifi^ pyrpie highiiffhts tntttLrds (fn'/nrlrt'ss iUatu- for ft ton r ofhis ff)rtress,nputeiit heytmd thewiM-

nnthi(f Ih^' nudr whitt' rcaHwH hri/ftruL i'f^t dreams if Versailles. We end up in a large
sertirai of t tie main htiH lelu^re out- nutti appears
MyS^'rvtttifs--' tihtrai sinsibiHtirs rt'cniled at to he entirely eonered with TV serems, all tuned

thi' runr^pt with a prtd uttthU" k/ifr-JfTk. Latet: Hto different rhannels. is here that i4ye hoUi ottr

fiiarrrrr, on It'artihttf fhal the ttien had hrt^n Vii't-

ctftiff n'I'ufp'i's in ttftttiit'r tjj luiiin(f tfti'irift''('s in ivierrten: and 1 notiee his eyes often drifting
aeross (he riot of Hash in y images as ine speak.
thf piirtft's ftiilnvffnf Amrrivfi's i'if'tt;ry ivithaiit

Iridt's inlt'n eniif>n, i uasn't .so sur*'. SifKrAtit- It's only after I e^ifiri'ss tefrrnt^s eiaireming ftark-

onmfdarftirfi is htf vo tfatitfth Ift^' ita^t ^irt* the groand mdae and my rfeordiiig eyteipnieiil thai

nfarrt irall if Sfifc frnfff radii ff^ft, and Ihvif nomi- he thinks tf> atrti the sound of the muliiple tele

nal tm.'is sterffs U) If'i'af thrm mun' as rcsprrfrd visions down. They dan't seem to affect his e<m-

frh*nds tfum fi^s tarktys. Certahiiti th^t/ fhetfi- rentratioh at nil.

srii^f-'S aet'^n deiivintistif happtj triih both ilirirfftt mylitfftrr ftmurhifftf Into laterrieu' spiei, I

iiitd Ihtif tfiffdfard. fake a ttnath ami rewemher nhy I'm here. At-

"Mr. Vf'idf has nfttdf (hr f^JJort to ttndcfstuvd nnist tost in (he eaettphony sarnmttding the old

iiiu vuttun'. He talks ta us often rmnerniiat onr Trieksfer's Constitufional amendment seum,

rriitfious hi'tii^fi^, askimf munt/ ipifstirtns/' The oncofAnifriea's hest resptited and most eonsia-

mrnifin whi) if'fts thif^ is sim'frt* atid ht'drif'it iti tentlg Irft teaniny superheroes fptielly retired

his ti^siiiihJuifjL shuiaiftij an aim^stfatherly pra- from fhnofightiny to pnrsne a career in Iwsi-
tertive anjrffity that this magazine shmtfd not lO'ss Wfien this mutjazine ph<yaed him to ask

misn^finsetit his f^ttipfin/tt: why, he kindly off 'red to fly me up fit his ant-

"Hf IS not tint' of (iiiur pop tfutsii stars. Hi^dot\s aredf retreat nherc ue rf>utd conduct fhe inter-
not injt'rt dnifts, or trt^at tftaintj wojnen hndly.
f-irv in comfort. K.rhaliny, I press the reej>rd

Miikf surf that you syj.v that.*' }>nf{on and heyin,
W^frn wv ri'arii Ihr fortress, Vfidt is stifi rotu-
NOVA; So, how flu yim p,el lo be ;i siiperhi^ro?

ph'tififj his dtiihj workottf itt a ffymnasimn of Were your t>art^nls ric h? I mi^nu, did th^it j(ivc you
rax/, ahnosf dtytunfikf proportions, tvht'rf par

tdh'f tifirs me(^t at infiniitf. i^m rorditrlly inrUrd VElDT:No mort^lharil <ouh] help.My rriothorlefl
mo a Un n] nunipy whrri she rlu'd, hut I i*.\.ive it to
to u.iiuh \rhU*' h*' finish*'s up. and us I itttsmr
that perfect ,s;yf/s\s u^uhtf of a bodtf tudrtintf and t tuirily whi'ii 1 was sovrulot^n, [ wanU-^fi In prt>ve
ihiit [foiiliiiiri'omplishiiiiyiliiM^f wanu <lsi;Lriing
rinthiit ahore me in easy drfiantr fiffjrtifity, off
Troii! al(soliitp|y notfiiiig_ Also, I wanfcd to free
my varlivr doahts ronveniinfj Vfidt's ac-

a'ssihifftff retarn. mys(4f <jt' ( onceni ffir luoiicy. Cfinsrqiw^iilly, it's

Titer*' he is, rifjht ttp thetv nhotie me: the fuath m'V(*r been a probJc^m for me. To jinswrr your

AdrhiK Vt^idt. (i<^yrnan . tvftoops. lift nh. Wv iju<'sti<»n.yftu j^irt tobeasuperheroby bt^liiwinsiri
\he Jieni within you an<l Mummonin^ him or hor
don't adi him (hat anipuorr, ito it-f;* The fuusk is

fffme, httt as h^i i^tops thehifjh har in slov^, tjrme ftirth by an act of will. liolU'vin;t; in yourself and

ful rentrifutfc he stU! weffrs the fjotden feotard, your own ptitenlinl is I he firs I step to realixin^ that

and the headfuifid. Krery sprtfrirnd i'i'f htrd in fMP|eiiti;il. Alti-TnaUvtHy you could do ns Joji dit!:

file past ft at r t/rars has aanted lo hty this gtty, r";ill iiilo a imrlrar riNK'tor and hojir f<jr the bi'St.
tnore than Jayfjer, more thaii Sprrnysteen or
my< )ri liu- whoU'. 1 ibink t [irefer to .slUk lo own

IVKaih or ant/ ofthe}se aiso-rans, and ftov hf^re I rTH'tliods. (Lanyhter)
itrtt, siifiiafiay up a^ ftitn. and yrs, yoddnmn it, I
NOVA: Yoii'JI ftK^ive me for sayiji^ so, but isn't

httee lo yoddatnned adfnit Uuit he luoks like a ibat philosophy a little Noriiuin Vincont IVyle?

ifotldam neii rfod' f ran V tpaite hrlieif he'll stthnt it That s<'U-rea]i?:atiori .stiifr* flow e'xartly do you

to betttff fntenortf'f'd hy sonteotn' so obeiousttf rxploil rhut potenlial to thi' dej^ree (.hat you ot)-

mired lu thr dreys f}f the rjenc jukjI as rnysetf. . vioiisly have?

, . . hut keri^ fu* romes, dropjtiny to the f^ttor, VEIDT: Thi* di.seiplmes of physical i^xenise,

pirkinff itp the pu rph' travel that I realizv fafer is ]iie<liuilion and sludy ;iren't lerrilHy I'soVeric . The
fithioUy the lufnr (tf Ifis rostume, and uipinfj
himself htnwath \he arins with it in a distiTietJy ineiins Ui aLtaJn a eajmbility far tieyorul liwil of ihe

so <'jilled ordinary pers<in are within reach of

everyniic. if lh(^ir (k^sjre and their will iirc ^inm^ mueh good ff>r the world as a whole. Those evils

unough. I have MiiHU^<l scit^m-f . art. relifiion ajid a are just symptcmis (»f an overall sickness of the
hnnian siiirit. and 1 don't believe you can cure a
hundred different t)hihw^phips. Anyonr rtniifl i\o (llstntst* by suppressing its symptoms. That whole
('fmtnc ¥K> approach to our society's problems, I
;ls nnieli By applyutg whai yim U-arn and "rilering
despair of it II fln*'sn't work. Maybe as a busi-
your Ihou^hLs In an inlelligpiil manner i( is |>nssi- nessman I eim d<* more good^ on a more mean-

hk^ to arttkmplish almt^st anything. Possible fur ingful srale.

the "ordinary [H'rsini"Then''s a notion I'd like to NOVA; What sort of world do you see it being, in

see huri^^d: liie ordinary perstni. Ridieulous, Ihe fuiiire'^

Thi're is no ordinary pers^m. VEIDT: That de^jends ujjon us . , . earh and every
one of UR. Futurology interests me perhaps more
NOVA: Returning (o your eosiumed tareer, why
than any other single subjfet , and as such I devote
did you quiV' a grc*ai deal ol time lo its study Even so, teeh-
Tudogy IS progressing at an ever-aeeelerating
VEIDT: There wtTe- a number of reasfir^s. but I pa<-e.and by early next century I would hesitate to
predict any limitations upon what wc might be
mydowusut>p<j.se h^Lsieally it boJleil inrreasin^I capable f»f. I wouUI say without hesitation that a
t(» new world is within our grasp, filled with unimag
inable experiences and possibilities, if or»Iy we
uneertatntyahoul theroledfthe [ osluniedhero in want it badly enough. Not a Utopia ... 1 don't

(he severities. What does tlghtlnj^ erirrn" irn^an, believe that any spi'ciew couM continue to grow
ajul keep from stagnation without some adversity
exaelly? Does it mean npholdin^ (tie law when a . . . but a society with a more human basis, where
the problems that beset us are at least new
w(iin*in shoplifts to feed her eliitdren, or dm's il
problems.
mean struggling to uneover the ones who, quite
NOVA: You don't Lhink there's a possibility we
legally Iiave lirou^ht about hvt povtTly? Ws, I've may have damaged the environment beyond re-
pair, or tJiat we migtit someday hiave a faial nu-
biisted drug riri^s anti l>een aeeused of being an
clear shciwdown with the Soviets?
eslablishment ])awn for iloinj; so .. , (hat hap-
pened a lot in the sixties. iVe also uneovrred plcjl.s CfmtfTiUird

f)y breakaway extremist faetions within thv tVn

tai^fin^ far example the pltJt t^i release some un-

pteasantly speeitle diseiises upon tiie population

of Afriea, the expoiiun- of which Jed to th<^ \rw
Frrjn/irrstnun dencmiieing nw as a "Puppet of

Peking" on the strenjith of my youthful travels

lhr<ni;^h the Kast. I guess fve just reached a point
wluTt.' I've started to wonder whether all the

grandstantiing and fighting individual evils doc^s

PmiTt> f(l[ HTKSy CJF TBIANHL^ IHf

NOVA EXPRESS / July 12. 1975

VEIDT: Of course. Of course I do. Tct be ignoring medoing it's having a political bia.s. Believe . .,

the facts if I didn't accept those things a.s strong you have to meet him to understand. I mean,

possibilitifs. As I said, it all dtrjjends i>n us, on which do you prefer, red ants or black ants?
whether we, individually, want Armageddon or a
new world of fabulous, limitless potential. That's NOVA; Uh . , .? Well, 1 donl have any particular

not such ail obvious question a.s ti set*ms. I believe preference , , ,

there are some people who really do want, if otily VEIDT: Exactly, Well, imagine how Jon feels.

subconsciously, an end to the world. They want to Rorschach. 1 don't know very well. I believe he's a
be ijpared the responsibilities of maintaining that man of great integrity, but he seems to see the
world, to be spared the effort of imagination
neetlcd Ut realize such a future. And of <;'ourJ*e, world in very black and white, Manichean terms. I

there are other people who want very much to personally believe that to be an inteUectual

live. 1 see twentieth century society as a sort of limitation.
race between enlightenment and extinction. In
NOVA: And the Comedian? 1 understand there's
one lane you have the four horsemen of the
nt> love lost between you. 1 heard that he beat you
apocalypse . , . in combat, back when you were just starting out . . .
VEIDT: Yes^ welli that was a case of mistaken
NOVA:, . and in the other?
identity and general misunderstanding. For some
VEIDT: The seventh cavalry. {Laughter)
NOVA: Changing the su?)ject entirely, do you lis reason it happens a lot when costumed crime-
ten to much music? I wondered what your tastes
fighters meet for the first time. (Laugftt^
might be, as a superhero . . .
NOVA: But you and the Comedian don't like
VEIDT; I like electronic music. That's a very
superhenvey thing to like, I suppose, isn't it? 1 each other?

like avant garde music in general. Gage, Stock- VEIDT; My, but you're determined, aren't you?
hausen, Penderecki, Andrew Lang* Pierre Henry.
{Laughs) No, we're not great friends. It's largely
Ttrry Riley is very good. Oh, and I've heard some
interesting new music from Jamaica ... a sort of a political difference. He sees me as an inteUec-
hybrid between electronic music and reggae. It's a
fascinating study in the new musical forms gener- tual dilettante dabbling in national affairs that
ated when a largely pre technological culture is
given access to modern recording techniques don't concern me. I see him as an amoral mercen-

without the technological preconceptions that ary allying himself to whichever political faction
we've allowed to accumulate, limiting our vision.
It's called dub music. You'd Hke it, I'm sure. seems likely to grant him the greatest license. The

NOVA; How do you get on with the rest of the difference is as simple and as profound as that
superhero fraternity? Some of them seem very
right-wing in contrast with your own stance, Tm NOVA: There's no general sense of disillusion-

thinking of Rorschach, the Comedian, Dr. ment with your fellow crimefighters, then?
Manhattan . . .
VEIDT: Not at all. Some of my dearest friends are
VEIDT; Jou? Right wing^? (Laughs) Tf there's one
tiling in this cosmos that tliat man isn't capable of numbered amongst them. I wish them all nothing

Imt luck in the years that lie ahead.

NOVA: In closings youVe often been referred to in

the press as the world's smartest man. Is that true,
and does it bother you?

VEIDT: No, that isn't true, but it's very flattering

and I don't mind a bit, If somebody wants to call
me the world's best-groomed man, then hey, that's

okay too. {Laughs) No, no, 1 donH mind being the

smartest man in the world. I just wish it wasn't
this one.Q

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