Opthetimist
In an interview with her Happiest Season director,
Clea DuVall, actress KRISTEN STEWART
discusses queer representation, artistic freedom,
and how she’s found her own path forward
photographed by OLIVIA MALONE
styled by REBECCA RAMSEY
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CLEA DUVALL: I feel like I’m seeing a family member I you think when you read the script?
haven’t seen in a long time. I’m like, “Look at your hair. You KS: It deals with very poignant things that, for me, are ex-
look so healthy.” tremely affecting and triggering—even though now the word
KRISTEN STEWART: I love that we’re doing it this way “triggering” triggers me more than anything in the whole
too. This is my third Zoom call ever. world. [laughs] But the movie is so funny and cute, and I loved
CD: I would have been Zooming you all the time, but I just the couple. They’re both people I really felt protective of
assume that everyone hates Zoom at this point. in different ways, because I’ve been on both sides of that dy-
KS: I like it. This is cool because the story won’t be like, namic where someone is having a hard time acknowledging
“We went to a local café in her neighborhood and ordered a who they are and the other person is more self-accepting. I
drink. There’s a tension. Does she want to be here?” [laughs] [personally] came into the more complex aspects of myself a
CD: Was it something I said? [laughs] You turned 30 in quar- little bit later. I never felt an immense shame, but I also don’t
antine. How did it feel to have a big birthday at that time? feel far away from that story, so I must have it in a latent sense.
KS: I woke up that day [April 9] and was like, “You need to get CD: Yeah.
your ass in gear.” I was drinking too much in the beginning KS: I don’t want to aggrandize my own pain, because I know
[of the pandemic], so I stopped drinking and smoking. I’m that others’ pain has been so great. Living in this world, being
embarrassed because it sounds really cliché, but, whatever, a queer person, there are things that hurt constantly. Anyway,
it’s true. I read the script, and I couldn’t believe a studio was doing it.
CD: How have you been spending your time in quarantine? CD: Was it your own experiences that drew you to it?
KS: I’ve been writing Chronology [an adaptation of the KS: Yeah. The first time I ever dated a girl, I was immediately
book The Chronology of Water, by Lidia Yuknavitch, which being asked if I was a lesbian. And it’s like, “God, I’m 21 years
Stewart is also directing] for a long time. That’s done. And old.” I felt like maybe there were things that have hurt people
I have three other projects I’ve been thinking about for a I’ve been with. Not because I felt ashamed of being openly
while but never touched. For the first time, they’ve all gay but because I didn’t like giving myself to the public, in a
taken a massive jump forward. way. It felt like such thievery. This was a period of time when
CD: What is a typical day like for you now? I was sort of cagey. Even in my previous relationships, which
KS: I walk my dogs and take walks with people. I feel horrible were straight, we did everything we could to not be photo-
about the state of the world, so I’m donating money—but I’m graphed doing things—things that would become not ours.
not marching, and I’m feeling weird about it. I’m a frustrated So I think the added pressure of representing a group of
optimist. I’m always thinking, “It can’t be as bad as this.” people, of representing queerness, wasn’t something I
CD: We made Happiest Season before the pandemic. understood then. Only now can I see it. Retrospectively, I
Mary [Holland] and I wrote this story because I wanted can tell you I have experience with this story. But back then
something that represented an experience I haven’t seen, I would have been like, “No, I’m fine. My parents are fine
which was something close to my own. [The film is about a with it. Everything’s fine.” That’s bullshit. It’s been hard.
woman named Harper, played by Mackenzie Davis, who It’s been weird. It’s that way for everyone.
has yet to come out to her family but brings her girlfriend, CD: And as a 21-year-old, you had people writing articles
Abby, played by Stewart, home for Christmas.] What did about you, chasing you around, and trying to get to the
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bottom of what you are when you hadn’t even fully gotten KS: I read the news every day, but I don’t fixate on it. I have
to the bottom of it yet. I can imagine that would make you some friends who won’t stop, and it’s all they talk about. I’m
put up every wall you could. not saying I don’t want to confront these things. But in terms
KS: Yeah. And it affects family and other people. Then they of how involved I am, I’ve never been the face of anything. I
have their own experience that they bring to the table. don’t even have a public Instagram. I really do like to support
CD: Does anything stand out as something you really people who are already doing it and have been for years.
enjoyed in making the movie? Other than working with CD: Has it been a conscious choice for you to stay off social
me, obviously. [laughs] media?
KS: I could not have had a better partner in this than KS: It’s just not natural to me. It’s never been a question.
Mackenzie. This couple needed to be two people you really I’ve never been like, “Should I do it?” It’s literally just been
liked and found aspirational. So we had to make sure of like, “No, my god.” [laughs]
that—even though it is a movie about somebody who is CD: As someone who became a star so young, do you feel
coming to terms with being themselves. We had a respon- like you’ve grown into yourself?
sibility to not be dinky. It’s like, “No, we know what we’re KS: Right now we’re having a conversation that’s really nice,
doing, and it’s OK. And now please, everyone else get com- because I’m not thinking about the fact that I’m talking to a
fortable with it.” million people. But when I was younger, I just couldn’t get
CD: Being a queer person, playing a gay character, do you away from that as an idea. I was just so bogged down by it all
feel like there’s almost an expectation for you to be a that I couldn’t even present an honest version of myself.
spokesperson for the community? That frustrated me because I kept getting in my own way.
KS: I did more when I was younger, when I was being Now that I am older, I’m not as scared of fucking up.
CD: I can imagine the pressure of carrying a
“The first couple of times huge franchise like [Twilight] when you’re so
I played queer characters, young must have been extremely intense.
I was not [openly] queer KS: I was a kid. I definitely was never like, “OK,
yet. I’m drawn to stories I’ve got this franchise on my back.” If anything,
and people for a reason, that is an outsider’s perspective, which is one that
and I think, by default, I I can share with you only now. Then, I had no idea.
represent what I stand for.” CD: What about as an actor?
KS: I’m a pretty confessional artist. I definitely
enjoy my work being as personal as I can make it.
The first couple of times I played queer charac-
ters, I was not [openly] queer yet. I’m drawn to
stories and people for a reason, and I think, by
default, I represent what I stand for. I do think
it’s important that we step into different roles
and into other people’s shoes in order to really
expand ourselves, albeit not ever taking up space
hounded about labeling myself. I had no reticence about for people who should be telling their own stories.
displaying who I was. I was going out every day knowing CD: Are you already prepping to play Princess Diana [in
I’d be photographed while I was being affectionate with the film Spencer]?
my girlfriend, but I didn’t want to talk about it. I did feel KS: We don’t start shooting until mid-January. The accent is
an enormous pressure, but it wasn’t put on me by the intimidating as all hell because people know that voice, and
[LGBTQ+] community. People were seeing those pictures it’s so, so distinct and particular. I’m working on it now and
and reading these articles and going, “Oh, well, I need to be already have my dialect coach. In terms of research, I’ve got-
shown.” I was a kid, and I felt personally affronted. Now I ten through two and a half biographies, and I’m finishing all
relish it. I love the idea that anything I do with ease rubs off the material before I actually go make the movie. It’s one of
on somebody who is struggling. That shit’s dope! When I the saddest stories to exist ever, and I don’t want to just play
see a little kid clearly feeling themselves in a way that they Diana—I want to know her implicitly. I haven’t been this
wouldn’t have when I grew up, it makes me skip. excited about playing a part, by the way, in so long.
CD: This is an election year. How politically active are CD: I’m going to pivot a little bit because this is a fashion
you? You talked earlier about making donations and the mag, and you know I am a clotheshorse. Do you miss
complicated relationship with how to be engaged. People dressing up for work and doing the red-carpet thing?
really need to vote. KS: It was really fun shooting this cover, actually. I hadn’t
KS: People need to vote. seen my team in so long, and it was a photographer [Olivia
CD: How much do you read the news? Malone] I really like. It did remind (CONTINUED ON PAGE 132)
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What Would
RBG Do?
The best way to honor the memory of Supreme Court Justice
and feminist icon RUTH BADER GINSBURG is to never, ever give up
by DAHLIA LITHWICK
I f you are anything like me, you have experi- “Better bitch than mouse.”) She famously had to explain to
enced the death of Justice Ruth Bader the dean why she had the right to be there when he not so
Ginsburg as a body blow. The loss of one of subtly suggested that the slot “could have gone to a man.”
the most prominent and impactful female After her first oral argument before the Supreme Court, in
leaders the world has known is immeasur- 1973, one of the (all-male) justices scrawled “C+” and “very
able. It’s tempting to pull the covers over our precise female” in his notes about her performance.
heads and eat frosting right out of the tube,
At that time, Ginsburg was the co-founder and general
but as a legal scholar and court watcher for counsel for the ACLU’s Women’s Rights Project. While
the past two decades, I want you to know that if the sudden in that role, she won five of the six cases she argued before
passing of the Notorious RBG has you feeling hopeless the Supreme Court, regularly explaining to a panel of
and powerless, then you haven’t been paying attention. all-male judges that a legal regime that treated women as
A kind of superhero who first invented and then became fragile flowers was not respectful of females but actually
the guardian of female equality under the law, RBG was the diminished them. When asked about the advocacy work
second woman elevated to the U.S. Supreme Court. Over of getting men to understand that gender bias in the
the course of almost three decades, she became an influen- law didn’t put women on a pedestal but rather in a cage,
tial senior justice who consistently spoke truth to power. Ginsburg compared it to being a “kindergarten teacher.”
In a nation currently starved for models of authority, we Once she was confirmed to the Supreme Court, in 1993,
revere her as much for being the toughest lady in America RBG used her prodigious intellect to teach, listen, cajole.
as for being an 87-year-old grand- The Notorious One, even at her most
mother in a fancy lace collar. She was authoritative, was using the skills,
all these things, and, thankfully, she tricks, and strategies most women
didn’t stay in her lane, so the rest of The Notorious One, deploy every day. Whether she was
us don’t have to either. imploring male judges to give women
Perhaps her most endearing quality even at her most the legal right to be treated as primary
was her ability to fight in the face of authoritative, was breadwinners or penning her most
really bad odds. She was a brilliant stinging dissents in the last 15 years—
student who, while attending Harvard using the skills, excoriating her male colleagues over
Law School in the ’50s, was one of nine
women in a class of more than 500 tricks, and strategies equal pay for Lilly Ledbetter, reproduc-
tive freedom, the right to employer-
men. There, the professors belittled most women deploy provided contraception, or the right
her, and some of her male classmates to vote—Ginsburg rarely, if ever, ap-
nicknamed her Bitch. (Her response? every day.”
proached the (CONTINUED ON PAGE 132)
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Ginsburg in
Italy while on
a Rockefeller
Foundation
fellowship in 1977.
Self-
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With killer fashion instincts (and a few designer friends) actress
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That’s not to say she doesn’t have any help. “I’ve become
efore I walked the red carpet for the friends with many designers, so I’ll text them if I have my
[2000] première of Remember the Titans eye on a piece,” she explains, citing as an example her pal
at age 16, someone had to explain to me Jason Wu, whose unfussy approach to high-glamour gowns
that I’d need a fancy dress,” says Kate suits her sensibility. “It’s a close collaboration between the
Bosworth with a laugh. It’s a few days person who created the design and me.”
after her self-styled InStyle shoot, and Although Bosworth is the first to admit she’s a fan—with a
capital F—of fashion, it’s only one of her many passions. Since
the actress is reminiscing about the first deferring her acceptance to Princeton University nearly two
decades ago to pursue acting in L.A., the star has parlayed
time she put serious thought into getting dressed up. “I’m her breakout role in the surfer flick Blue Crush into a rich
variety of character-driven parts (this fall she portrays an
from a small Connecticut town, so my only concept of fash- oil executive in The Devil Has a Name). Together with her
husband, Michael Polish, she also produces movies and
ion was whatever store a normal teenager would shop at in TV shows (they are currently working on a series called
Bring on the Dancing Horses) and runs a two-week summer
the ’90s.” Luckily, a co-worker on set knew someone at Gior- workshop for aspiring filmmakers in Montana.
gio Armani, and Bosworth soon found herself in the design- When asked to style herself for our shoot, Bosworth started
in the same way she does with any creative endeavor: by
er’s showroom browsing options and considering what her throwing herself into research. Zeroing in on the idea of “a girl
who has had enough of quarantine,” she planned each look
father, the vice president at a menswear label, might choose. by writing out extensive notes on the intended mood (“a real
staying-home-from-school feeling”) and cultural references
“I was thinking how he would tell me, ‘Classic never goes (such as Woman Under the Influence) she wanted to evoke.
out of style,’ when I picked an ankle-length skirt and a strappy Details matter to Bosworth, and so does taking the time
to get them right. Her explanation? “The short answer is
velvet tank top,” she says. After a pause, she adds, “I might that I’m a control freak,” she says with a laugh. “But the
real answer is I feel most fulfilled when I’ve earned some-
have also been looking to Gwyneth Paltrow for inspiration.” thing. I like the work, you know?”
Today, Bosworth’s style is all her own. After years Since the pandemic began, Bosworth has turned her
focus on a new project: Kind.est, a website inspired by the
of working closely with some of the industry’s most vulnerability she felt after her grandmother’s passing.
Since its début in April, she’s been using the space to share
in-demand stylists (like Samantha McMillen and Jessica personal anecdotes, product recommendations, and con-
versations with people she admires. “It’s a handmade
Paster, whose clientele includes Elle Fanning and Miranda destination; every word is written by me,” she says. “I’m
up late every night obsessing over the design of an article.”
Kerr, respectively), she has gained both the confidence Her guiding ethos? Kindness and topics of substance. “No
matter how serious or light the subject matter is, there’s
and the connections needed to dress herself for events. a story behind every post.”
Her approach to style, which she describes as “classic, Telling these stories has helped Bosworth, who struggled
to find meaningful online interactions in the days following
minimalist, experimental, and unexpected,” is a one-two her grandmother’s death, express herself in new ways. “Social
media made me feel so self-aware about what I was going
punch that manages to both make basic silhouettes feel through,” she remembers. “I wanted to create a space where
people could be open.” And while she certainly did not plan to
launch her site in the midst of a worldwide health crisis and
social upheaval, Bosworth hopes her little corner of the Inter-
net can be a place of respite for others as well—be it through a
thought-provoking interview or a fun fashion editorial. “This
is a complex time,” she says. “But as cheesy as it sounds, I be-
lieve that any challenge we’re served is a chance to evolve.” n
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Hugh
Fortified by his home life, actor and father of five HUGH GRANT is
putting his heart into his work—and coming up with his best roles yet
by CHRISTOPHER BAGLEY
photographed by BOO GEORGE styled by WAY PERRY
A fewhoursbeforemyinterview result, he’s doing a lot of emoting, both on and off the job. At
with Hugh Grant, while I’m home, whenever he reads the children’s book Stick Man to
preparing my questions and won- his young kids, he can’t help crying at the end as the title
dering how delicately I should character is rescued from fire and reunited with his family.
phrase the one about the pros and
cons of getting older, an unex- “I seem to have access to emotions that I didn’t used to
pected bulletin pops up on my have,” Grant says.
news feed. Grant is turning 60 this
week. In his hometown of London, the Four Weddings and If you were around during Grant’s reign as the ultimate
a Funeral heartthrob will now be entitled to some senior- English rom-com star in the 1990s and 2000s, or if you’ve
citizen perks, including free rides on city buses. And sure streamed films like Notting Hill and Love Actually more
enough, when Grant appears via Zoom from his home— recently, you might have figured that the actor’s range was
backlit, he jokes, to shave off a few years—the mere mention fairly limited. Though his movies have grossed almost $3
of his age unleashes a stream of his signature self-mocking billion worldwide, people always assumed that Grant was
quippery. These days, Grant says, “I have to pee every three playing some version of himself—an endearingly befud-
seconds.” His body is failing him in several perplexing dled, floppy-haired Oxford grad who was probably related
ways. On Twitter recently, someone told him that his face to the Earl of Shrewsbury or something. On the talk show
resembled a scrotum. “I couldn’t disagree,” he says. circuit, Grant routinely claimed that in real life he was
But to Grant’s own surprise, it turns out that aging can neither as likable nor as posh as his characters, yet he did it
have some significant upsides, beyond the free bus rides. so charmingly that no one believed him. And he kept on
One is a bona fide career renaissance: Grant has been playing more romantic leads (Bridget Jones’s Diary, Two
delivering a range of riveting performances, the latest as a Weeks Notice). Grant says he’s fond of his early films. “I’m
tormented doctor in the new HBO miniseries The Undoing. grateful to them for making me rich,” he notes. “But I never
Meanwhile, after years as a childless middle-aged bachelor thought, ‘This is what I’m good at.’ ” Nor was he ever offered
(or a “dried-up old golf addict,” as he puts it), he has trans- the darker, denser roles he quietly craved. “Being lazy and
formed himself into a happily married father of five. As a a bit of a coward, I didn’t go searching for them. I mean, at
one point the world was my oyster, and I could have made
pretty much any film. And I didn’t.”
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couple whose lives implode after a mother at their son’s
school is bashed to death with a mallet and their hidden
connections to the victim are exposed. In addition to his
first-ever prison fight (spoiler: he bites), Grant has a couple
of heart-wrenching family scenes, like the one in which his
distraught son visits him in jail. “In the first take, I was ab-
solutely sobbing,” Grant recalls, adding that director Su-
sanne Bier had to urge him to tone it down. “She said, ‘Oh,
that’s wonderful, but maybe he should be a bit more…
manly? You know, being strong for the sake of his son?’ ”
Technique-wise, Grant says, the emotional scenes
required lots of “really hard work”—Method-y stuff like
shutting himself in rooms and listening to music to dredge
up the pain. “Luckily, I found that filming in New York, sepa-
rated from my family, made me extremely homesick and
rather fragile,” Grant says. “Frankly, it had been one of the
motives for doing the job. I had thought, ‘Oh, how lovely to get
Boss coat. Dolce & away from my screaming kids.’ But it was terrible. I really
Gabbana shirt. missed them.” Grant also relied on a time-honored acting
trick: copying Meryl Streep. He had picked up a few things
GROOMING NOTE from his co-star in the 2016 film Florence Foster Jenkins.
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“At one point the world once made a vow to herself that whenever there
was my oyster, and I could was an emotional scene, she would make sure
she’d done everything in her power to summon
that emotion before she started acting it.”
Part of Grant’s recent commitment to getting
have made pretty much real onscreen is a deep aversion to makeup. For
several years he’s been refusing to wear it, though
any film. And I didn’t.” he admits he had second thoughts after watching
himself in The Undoing opposite Kidman, who at
53 has managed to maintain the complexion of a
débutante. “She’s done it brilliantly, I have to say,”
Over the years there were hints that Grant was souring on Grant says. “She looks incredible. I really do look scrotal.”
acting and on life in general. In 2009 he threw a backstage For all Grant’s jokes about being far too elderly to be
tantrum before appearing on The Daily Show to promote raising small children (his youngest is 2 years old), it
Did You Hear About the Morgans? Afterward, host Jon seems that fatherhood is the main thing that has finally
Stewart said Grant would never be invited back. “I was at put the lifelong commitment-phobe in touch with his feel-
my worst,” Grant recalls now. “I was drinking too much at ings. “It’s the old cliché: Suddenly you’re overwhelmed by
that time, and I probably had a horrible hangover. And I this love, and it’s really nice,” he says. Grant had his first
knew no one really liked the film.” (He later apologized to child, a daughter, at age 51 with Chinese-born Londoner
Stewart’s crew.) Grant began to spend less time on movie Tinglan Hong; they have a son as well, and Grant has three
sets and more time on golf courses. Then he started turning more kids with Anna Eberstein, whom he married in 2018.
up in unlikely character parts—he was the scene-stealing Eberstein, a TV producer from Sweden, is also the one
villain in Paddington 2. But it took a BBC miniseries, who persuaded Grant to give up his golf addiction and switch
Stephen Frears’s A Very English Scandal, to really showcase to tennis, a sport he now plays just as obsessively. (Grant had
the complex layers that Grant had been concealing beneath also gotten into Pilates for a while, but he says he dropped it
the charisma. He got an Emmy nomination for his por- when it made him fat. “I used to think, ‘I feel so marvelous
trayal of disgraced Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe. after Pilates—I’m so bendy and fit, and I feel like I’ve got a
In The Undoing Grant digs even deeper, playing a presti- very strong vulva!’ What they don’t tell you is you’re really
gious Manhattan pediatric oncologist who may or may not doing no exercise at all.”) Grant’s competitive side has also
be a psychopath. He and Nicole Kidman star as a wealthy emerged in some political battles (CONTINUED ON PAGE 132)
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Persist
As someone who has never backed down from a fight,
SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN is pouring all her energy
into turning the White House blue
by SARAH CRISTOBAL
E lizabethWarrenisnotonlyfamedfor happening around us right now will basically be on the ballot.
“persisting” but for having a plan. Many The racial inequalities we see, shrinking opportunity for
of them. A schoolteacher–turned– millions of Americans, a pandemic that continues to spiral...
Harvard Law professor–turned–politi- Donald Trump is doing everything he can to accelerate it.
cian, Warren established the Consumer Joe Biden will do everything he can to bring it under control.
Financial Protection Bureau following
the housing crisis of 2008. Since taking What are your memories of first meeting Senator Harris?
I got to know Kamala on the phone. In the lead-up to the
office in 2013, she has been a populist crusader for women’s crash of 2008, Kamala was the attorney general for Califor-
rights, climate change, health care, taxes, and the economy. nia and trying to protect California homeowners. I was the
Look to her Instagram for real-time reactions to issues person clanging the bell about the housing bubble and how
plaguing the country (in the week after we spoke it was the the giant banks were going to take down American families
New York Times’ exposé on Donald Trump’s taxes, Amy and our entire economy. Kamala and I started working
Coney Barrett’s nomination to the Supreme Court, and the together long-distance along with a lot of other attorneys
decision not to charge the officers involved in the death of general around the country. When I was thinking about
Breonna Taylor). As she actively campaigns on behalf of running for Senate from Massachusetts, Kamala came to
former Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Kamala Harris, see me. We sat on my porch, and she gave me advice about
her onetime rivals for the Democratic presidential nomina- running for office. Kamala told me about a lot of what I would
tion, Warren, like her dear friend, the late Justice Ruth encounter and gave me ideas and guidance on how to man-
Bader Ginsburg, remains as steadfast as ever. “I like women age it. Then I tried to help her when she ran for senator. It’s
who fight back, who speak up, who demand change, and been a back and forth, woman to woman, helping each other
who get big things done,” she says. as we moved into new roles. I’m delighted
to be supporting her now for vice presi-
What was it that struck you most about dent of the United States. Woo-hoo!
RBG? She may have been tiny, but Ruth When I was What did she say you would encounter?
turned every barrier into an opportunity
Kamala made it clear that it’s lonely to run
for change. She blazed a trail for women’s thinking about for office. There are a lot of people around,
rights, worked tirelessly to protect our running for Senate but, ultimately, you’ve got to make a little
democracy, and helped to secure justice from Massachusetts, space for yourself. You get caught up in the
for the most vulnerable. We honor her by Kamala came to whirlwind, but you need a little space. For
defending and fighting for the things she me, it’s things like spending time with [my
defended and fought for. see me. We sat on my husband] Bruce and [dog] Bailey and get-
porch, and she ting out and walking, that sort of thing.
What do you have to say to the people
who are still undecided leading up to the gave me advice about Are there other ways that you like to
running for office.” unwind? Do you binge-watch anything?
election? Vote as if your life depends on it
because it probably does. Everything Yes. We’re in the (CONTINUED ON PAGE 133)
116 InSTYLE NOVEMBER 2020
Warren while on
a stroll with her
dog, Bailey, in
Washington, D.C.
Simply the
BEST
TINA TURNER reflects on her t“oRmedaen.liIdpfsretelitacgdklyawfmaosrolraionkuyesta,hdpirnoewgn.e”arlfiunle,
epic career—and the most
cherished moments featured
in her book That’s My Life
Charlie
Gates,
2019.
At home with Erwin [Bach, Harry
her husband] in Switzer Langdon,
land, getting ready to celebrate my
80th birthday with love, gratitude, 1980.
and absolute happiness.”
118 InSTYLE NOVEMBER 2020
Peter Lindbergh, 1989.
legendary photographer Peter Lindbergh, who
could work magic with just one click of his camera.”
NOVEM BER 2020 InSTYLE 119
ON HER FAMOUS LEGS I’m the last person to ask about Here I am in 1969—
my legs! When I was growing up, I always thought they were long hair, long legs,
too long and skinny. I felt like an awkward pony, so I never short skirt—fresh from a tour
wanted to show them off. When I wore short skirts onstage with the Rolling Stones and
it was for a practical reason—they gave me the freedom to feeling very rock ’n’ roll.”
move, and I really like to move. What do I like best about my
legs? They danced me across thousands of stages and walked Jack Robinson, 1969.
me down the aisle when I married Erwin Bach [in 2013].
ON GETTING READY FOR HER SHOWS I had a ritual
before every show. I applied my own makeup, finishing
with bright red lipstick. Then I put on my wig (which I
always styled myself), dressed in my beautiful costume,
and became Tina. It was a total transformation.
ON FASHION The most gifted designers can see who you
are inside and who you want to be onstage, and they express
that vision in their creations. Bob Mackie did that so beauti-
fully when he designed costumes for my solo show after I
left Ike [Turner, her first husband, in 1976]. One of my
dresses had wings, so I looked like I was about to take flight
and soar—which was exactly how I felt about being on my
own for the first time.
I also loved [couturier Azzedine] Alaïa. He was a dear
man and a dear friend. He didn’t have to say anything about
style: He was style. The second I put on one of his dresses I
felt very French, which is a good thing.
ON HER STYLE I take all the credit. When I was a young
girl in Nutbush, Tenn., I read every fashion magazine I
could get my hands on. Vogue and magazines like it were
my education, my window into a bigger, brighter world.
Then, when I traveled to New York, London, and other
cities, I studied how people dressed and developed my
own sense of style. I have favorite designers—like Giorgio
Armani, who did my wedding dress [when she married
Bach]—but I always knew what worked best for my body,
with my short torso and long legs. I might have made a few
mistakes in the ’80s, but everybody else did too!
ON PERFORMING When you love your work, and I always
did, it fills you with energy and strength. Performing was
like breathing to me—it was the oxygen that kept me going.
When there was no love in my life, my audience was always
there for me, and I still treasure our relationship.
ON RETIREMENT Can I be honest? Really honest? I’m 80,
and I started working when I was very young and rarely took a
break. Retirement (if you can call writing three books, work-
ing on a musical, and releasing a new single “retirement”) is
a precious gift. I’m happier than I’ve ever been, spending time
with my husband, working in my garden, even doing nothing.
And my fans are still with me, so I’m doubly blessed.
ON AMBITION Ambition is having a dream and dedicating
yourself to making that dream come true, no matter how
many obstacles stand in your way. So, yes, I have always
been ambitious because I believed I could accomplish my
wildest dreams—and I did!
Tina Turner: That’s My Life (Rizzoli New York) is out now.
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April
in Paris
in 1989,
strolling
under
the Eiffel
Tower with
Azzedine
Alaïa and
wearing one
of his most
beautiful
creations, a
dream of a
dress made
entirely of
black silk
chiffon and
gold pearls.”
Peter Lindbergh, 1989.
Cher introduced
me to Bob Mackie,
who brought my
costume fantasies
to life. I felt like
a goddess! And
his drawings
were as beautiful
as his dresses.”
Harry Langdon, 1980.
Givenchy coat,
pants, and shoes.
Cathy Waterman
earrings. Gaspar
Gloves by
Dorothy Gaspar
gloves. Bulgari
ring. Wolford
socks.
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more Oscar-winning actresses than she ever dreamed possi- Young girls deserve to see themselves onscreen. Because
ble. But while some young stars would casually name-drop how can you feel like you’re able to succeed when you don’t
the likes of Oprah Winfrey and Reese Witherspoon every see yourself succeeding?”
chance they got, Reid isn’t one of them. True to her Southern
upbringing, the Euphoria actress is as courteous as she is After co-founding a production company, A Seed & Wings
grateful, even prefacing the first names of Hollywood veter- Productions, with her mom, Robyn, and sister Paris, Reid is
ans with “Ms.” as a sign of respect. “When I think about the paving the way for a new, more inclusive generation in the
people I’ve been able to meet, I’m just in awe,” she says. industry—and she looks to the career of late Black Panther
actor Chadwick Boseman for inspiration. “He dedicated his
Reid has become known for her ever-endearing politeness life to being part of projects that benefited us as a Black cul-
as well as the glass-half-full attitude she often shares with ture, and that’s what I want to try to do,” she says. “I’m really
her million-plus followers on Instagram. But deep down, she happy to be a young Black woman in the space I’m in—to be
experiences the same highs and lows as any other teen. “Peo- accepted, to be loved, and for people to appreciate my work—
ple think of me as somebody they can look to for positivity, and I want to create opportunities for people who haven’t
but, truthfully, I’m just a young girl trying to figure it out,” been given them yet. Ms. Ava took a chance on me, so why
she says. “I’m actually a pretty shy person, and when I’m not wouldn’t I take a chance on someone else?”
in front of the camera, I’m much more introverted.”
Having Hollywood heavyweights cheering her on has
But Reid has spent most of her life on camera. Acting certainly given Reid the confidence to push forward. “It’s a
since age 3, the Atlanta-born star appeared in her first major blessing to have amazing women like Ms. Ava, Ms. Reese,
feature film, the Oscar-winning 12 Years a Slave, in 2013 be- Ms. Mindy, and Ms. Oprah in my corner championing me,”
fore landing the lead in A Wrinkle in Time in 2018. Starring says Reid. “I try to make them proud, but I know I’m not
opposite Winfrey, Witherspoon, and Mindy Kaling in the always going to do or say everything the right way. I’m
Ava DuVernay–directed project was momentous, but Reid’s not perfect, but the goal shouldn’t be for me to be perfect.”
casting was even more groundbreaking given that her char-
acter, Meg, was written as white in the original 1962 book, Still, Reid works hard to find the silver lining in any situa-
by Madeleine L’Engle. “When the film came out, little girls tion, and she’s continued to do so amid the pandemic. “If
would come up to me and say, ‘Thank you for allowing me to anything, 2020 has been a reminder that we need to appre-
see a girl who looks like me save the world,’ ” Reid recalls. ciate, uplift, and give people their flowers while they’re still
“That’s when I realized my career was bigger than myself.” here.” Reid has been sticking to her word, and a recent recip-
ient of one of her own floral arrangements was none other
The feedback wasn’t all positive, though, and at just 14, than her Euphoria co-star Zendaya, whom she lovingly calls
Reid found herself navigating mixed reactions to her cast- Z. “I’ve been a fangirl of hers since the beginning of time,
ing. “Some people had problems with me playing Meg be- and now she’s like my bonus big sister,” says Reid, who plays
cause they’d loved her as a Caucasian girl for so long,” she
says. “They were uncomfortable to have that shift, but the Young girls deserve
only way to create change in our world is through people to see themselves
willing to be uncomfortable.” Inclusion has been a driving onscreen. Because
force behind many of Reid’s career moves, from signing on how can you feel like
to 12 Years a Slave to joining the cast of the 2019 Netflix you’re able to succeed
miniseries When They See Us. “The projects I choose to be when you don’t see
yourself succeeding?”
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need advice about ‘growing up in Hollywood,’ as they say, or
just advice as a teenage girl trying to figure out life, she’s change, Reid is hesitant to label herself an activist. “I’m an
always a phone call away.” active learner and listener who wants to know what’s going
on in the world; activists have dedicated their lives to being
With the filming of Euphoria currently on hold, Reid has on the front lines,” she clarifies. “It’s important to shine the
kept busy with backyard workouts, virtual meetings, and spotlight on them and let them educate me so I can use that
some powerful reading material. After finishing Hood Fem- information to educate people who follow me.”
inism, by Mikki Kendall, she’s diving into The Fire Next
Time, by James Baldwin. “It’s about racial injustices in the Education is a top priority for Reid. She graduated from
early ’60s, but it relates to what we’re going through now high school a year early in May, an occasion that looked dif-
and how we can try to shift things,” says Reid. “Everything ferent from what she’d envisioned pre-pandemic. “I didn’t
feels like it’s falling apart, but I think we’ll see changes get the typical high school experience because I was home-
when the people in our administration care about our schooled for the past six years, so I was really looking for-
global community.” Though she’s “so bummed” to be a year ward to walking across that stage,” she says, describing the
shy of casting a ballot in November, she’s still doing what- Zoom ceremony in its place as “bittersweet.” Now she’s in
ever she can to get people to the polls. “A lot of young people the middle of a gap year as she plots her next move. “I need
are confused about voting or just feel like they don’t need to figure out what to do with this chapter of my life. I want
to, but this is a pivotal time in our country. So if you have to attend college but with the full experience of being on
the opportunity to vote, please use your vote wisely.” campus—so I’m just waiting to see what the world is going
to look like in the coming months.”
Reid isn’t afraid to get political when it comes to fash-
ion, either. “There are so many things I can say through While she’s ambitious to keep learning, Reid, as always,
my clothes,” says the star, who’s sported statement Ts remains focused on work. Up next, she’ll star opposite Idris
emblazoned with “Vote,” “Equality,” and “Phenomenally Elba in 2021’s The Suicide Squad, and she’s debating whether
Black” in her posts. “Fashion is all about empowering to ask Beyoncé to direct an episode of a new show she’s pro-
yourself by feeling and looking good, but it’s also about ducing. “It’s just wishful thinking,” she says, laughing. “But I
aligning yourself with brands that match up with your just feel like the world needs a lot of hope right now, and I
want my projects to give people that hope.” n
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Sia on
Motherhood
After years of struggling with infertility, the ultra-private pop star opens up
about how adopting two teenage boys has changed her life forever
as told to JENNIFER FERRISE
I ’ve wanted to be a mom my whole entire life. The day they came home with me, Maddie [Ziegler] was
For years I was basically walking around over, and since she’s like my daughter, we all had our first
with my legs open like, “Impregnate me!” family dinner together. Sitting at the table, my sons said,
[laughs] But I never got pregnant in any of “We’re allowed to use knives here?” In foster care, they
my relationships, even when I wasn’t exactly hadn’t been allowed to use a metal knife to eat in years.
practicing safe sex. I just thought it wasn’t And they’d never really eaten a vegetable either. I basically
God’s will for me. sat them down that day and said, “What has happened
When I got married [to filmmaker Erik to you in your life was wrong. It never should’ve happened.
Anders Lang in 2014], we did a lot of IVF, but But my job now is to protect you, and we’re going to get
I still had unexplained infertility. Eventually, we did get through everything together.” Both my boys had tears in
embryos, but then we also got a divorce, so I wasn’t able their eyes, and from that moment on, I knew it was my duty
to use them. It was all very painful, and by the end of that to be the best mother I could be for them.
relationship, I had suffered so much that it took lots of
profound therapy for me to realize that I needed to take I could’ve been the kind of parent who said, “I’m a rich
care of my own inner baby for a while. pop star. You guys can have a hundred grand each year for
So I took some time away. I spent three or four years basi- the rest of your life,” and then not really give them any
cally in bed by myself, recovering from the trauma of my attention. But that’s not the kind of person I am. I actually
marriage. And then everything changed one day when I was only give them an allowance for groceries. Of course, when
watching a documentary about the foster care system. I I first adopted them, I bought them everything in the
learned the story of a 16-year-old boy [whom Sia prefers to world. [laughs] But more importantly, I wanted to spend a
keep anonymous to protect his identity] and instantly fell in lot of time with them to help reverse the conditioning they
love with him. Older children have a really hard time getting grew up with and guide them toward a meaningful life that
adopted, and when I saw him, I said to myself, “That’s my they don’t ever have to be ashamed about.
son.” I knew I wanted to help him. By the time I found him,
he was 18 and aging out of the foster care system. I told him For most kids in the foster system it’s a real hustle every
that I wanted to adopt him, and since he was an adult, he day. My sons got $7 a week. If they couldn’t get transporta-
left with me that day. The only thing he asked was if he tion to school and were late, they’d receive a $5 penalty and
could also bring his cousin Che, who had lived with him in a end up with only $2 a week. You can’t even buy a Happy
group home. I had two spare bedrooms, so I said, “Sure!” Meal with that. And so many foster children turn to dealing
And even though I’d never met Che before, he also moved in [drugs] because of it. The entire system is so underfunded
with me that evening. Later I found out that they weren’t and understaffed that there are not enough people to really
really cousins, just friends. [laughs] But I didn’t care at all. I monitor how the kids are being taken care of. And now my
just felt so blessed to have them both with me. And I’ve real- sons very much want to be a part of that change, so
ized over the past year that Che was meant to be my son too. I am trying to give them the resources to do that.
Parenting has definitely been a roller coaster so far. After
spending so much time alone, it has (CONTINUED ON PAGE 133)
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Just because my sons
didn’t come out of me
19 years ago doesn’t mean
they’re not my children.”
Sia, with her son Che, 19, during the quarantine.
The Optimist ing.” I love my family, and I love Christ- don’t. We can step up and pick up the fight
mas, but obviously it’s a lot. So, I’ve in RBG’s honor. We can become the
CONTINUED FROM PAGE 10 1 created that little tradition for myself. scrappy outsiders who—against crazy
This year I don’t think I’m actually going long odds—continue to demand a better,
me of how much I love that. I think it’s to be able to be home. I’m going to be in more generous, more perfect constitu-
easy to confuse certain things that I have Europe prepping Spencer. tional union for everyone, no matter who
an aversion to, which is like, “Oh, she CD: Since the title of our movie is Happi- appears to be in charge. We can make a
doesn’t love getting her picture taken all est Season, who or what makes you hap- plan to vote and help others make a plan,
the time.” It’s like, “Yeah, not constantly.” piest now? we can volunteer to work the polls, we
But I love making art with my friends. KS: I really do wake up happy. I feel so can send a text. We can write letters and
That definitely fuels me in a different blessed. I love my friends and my family. call our representatives. We can be big-
way. It’s fun. But in terms of getting I’m a happy motherfucker. n ger and louder and do more. She would
dressed up and going out, the pressure of expect nothing less. n
that can be just dumb. I get nervous be- What Would RBG Do?
fore going out, not because I’m scared but Hugh
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CD: Getting ready for red carpets feels so law from a place of genuine power. She
high-stakes—there’s always a ticking approached it, more often than not, as he’s been waging publicly. After his
clock and so many people around. Do you an outsider, demanding more equality, phone was hacked by British reporters a
have any go-tos right now in your closet? broader definitions of citizenship, and a decade ago, he helped lead a crusade to
KS: Usually, I’m a really uniform-based more expansive view of freedom. expose the dark links between the U.K.’s
person. For certain weeks, I was getting tabloid press and its top politicians.
dressed every morning as if I had some- And that was her real magic: chipping Lately, Grant’s main targets have been
where to go. It made me feel better. There away at the machinery of authority until Brexit and Prime Minister Boris John-
was a period of time when I only wanted it was allocated more justly among all of son, but despite his knack for dashing off
to wear shit that was matching. I have a us. She did so with a reverence for her viral tweets (in one he called Johnson an
leopard-print suit thing that is really fun foremothers’ fights. Ginsburg never “overpromoted rubber bath toy”), he’s
to wear around the house. So, we wore stopped saying that she stood on the been trying to limit his time on all online
suits and sets. And then these silky, shoulders of the women who came before platforms. “There aren’t many cut-and-
robe-y things. My dad used to wear a robe her—Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Harriet dried answers in life, but I think one of
around the house, and it was very floofy. I Tubman, and Susan B. Anthony. Which the few is, just throw your phone away,”
am small, so if I wear a puffy robe, it just is why when young women, especially he says. “Just get off the fucking Internet.
looks so lame. The reason I didn’t like law students, lined up to get a selfie, she Life was immeasurably better before so-
robes is that I felt silly and dinky, and I never turned them down. cial media—and before the Internet—in
don’t like feeling silly and dinky. my opinion. And every day we get entan-
CD: I know this about you. In an era in which “I alone can fix it” gled further and further. I can’t organize
KS: Basically, I’ve been stepping outside became the definition of male influence, rugby training for my 8-year-old son
of wearing jeans and T-shirts. Within the Ginsburg’s power and authority came without getting on a bloody app.”
confines of my own home, of course. from the opposite impulse, the re-
CD: You are a face of Chanel, so I pre- minder that “all of you working together How long does Grant plan to keep act-
sume you have a lot of Chanel pieces in can fix it.” That command formed the ing? “I’m actually having that debate in
your closet. spine of her early legal advocacy and her my head at the moment,” he says. “I don’t
KS:I do, indeed. I have all my Chanel shit later jurisprudence—and near the end of know. If marvelous jobs came up, I’d
together. Sometimes I just walk by it. My her career, as women lost ground at the probably do them.” But for the past four
little black jacket is sitting there. I have Supreme Court, that message shot decades he’s been promising himself that
a couple of bags that are really classic. through her dissents. They were bat sig- he’ll go back to writing the kind of theater
But then I have so many things that a nals, sent out in the dark of night, inspir- sketches and other pieces he churned out
more daring, cooler person would wear. ing women to gather, to organize, to during his early 20s. He’s also got a half-
Maybe if I have kids, they’ll be like, lobby Congress for equal pay, or to stand written novel lying around. “In the end
“Why aren’t you wearing this incredible in their statehouses demanding access it’s more satisfying to be the primary cre-
thing?” Maybe someone will step in and to reproductive care. That may not be ative person than an interpreter,” he says.
utilize my wardrobe. the classic American tale of “Great Man “So if I can force myself to do that, I will.”
CD: So, we made a Christmas movie, as Meets World and Crushes It.” But it’s an
you know. Do you have any idea what extraordinary feminist story of “Brave Before we sign off, Grant allows him-
you’re doing for the holidays this year? Woman Inspires Us to Fight Together.” self one more uncharacteristic revelation
KS: I usually go home and hang out with That was her story, and it still should be when he comes close to acknowledging
my family. On Christmas morning I go eat ours now that she has gone. that he’s (almost, sort of) proud of his
Thai food because I live right next to Thai recent work. Asked if he agrees that his
Town, and it’s the only place that’s open, It took Donald Trump less than a week past few performances are the best of
and it’s incredible. Early-morning Thai to announce RBG’s replacement: Amy his career, he thinks for a moment.
food is really fun before everything gets Coney Barrett, a conservative judge who
going. You’re like, “Today’s going to be a could potentially dismantle some of the “I find that I’m able to watch them
shit show. It’s going to be really annoy- very freedoms Ginsburg battled for her without cringing,” he says. “I think I’ve
whole life. It’s easy to feel erased, but gotten a bit better. Yeah.” n
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Persist possible to do this. We need more women ously honest and live in the moment with-
in politics. More teachers. More single out using any substances. There has been
CONTINUED FROM PAGE 1 16 mothers. We need Black women. We need a lot of heartache. There has been a lot of
other women of color at every level of gov- lost trust and then a lot of regained trust.
middle of Star Trek: Discovery right now. ernment. We need women leading the But I do trust them both. And I’m proud
Season 2. It’s really good. Michael Burn- charge to make our government actually because they’ve come a very long way.
ham is my new favorite character. work for all the people, not just for the rich
The Trekkies are going to love that. Oh, and powerful. I would tell every woman This year has been tough for all of us, I
yes. Every night, no matter how late it is who’s thinking about running for office, think. And during the protests and racial
when I close up, we have dinner to- “Understand your own power. You have unrest, I have really been listening to my
gether, usually have a beer, and sit and the power to step up and be the candidate. sons. I basically handed over my social-
watch TV for about an hour. It’s just a You have the power to step up and help media platforms to them because until I
chance to unwind and feel like a normal another candidate.” That’s how we build met them, I only had a notion of systemic
person for a while. the movement that will make real change. racism. I did not understand how pro-
found the problem was. I feel like my
We learned about your affinity for How do we fix the systemic racism that eyes have been truly opened now thanks
Michelob Ultra when you appeared on to my boys. So instead of just feeling
exists in this country? We need to attack powerless about what is happening in
[Stephen] Colbert’s show. He makes fun it at its roots in every part of society, from the world, we’re trying to take action to-
of my beer-drinking habits. I love the housing to education to health care and gether and share information and expe-
beer I drink. It is the club soda of beer. more, but it is important that we think riences that will, hopefully, help others.
about our own responsibility. I want to
I read that you love Pond’s—is that your think about my responsibility as a white My son Che is living with me during the
skin-care secret? I’m on a WhatsApp person and the responsibility that other quarantine, and even though we’re all so-
chain with some very smart women, and white Americans have at this moment. cial distancing, I’m proud that he’s able to
there is a lot of talk about your lovely We need to ask ourselves what we are do- have a really full life. We have bonded a lot
ing proactively every day to dismantle during this time, and we have so many
neck. It’smoisturizermultipletimesaday. systemic racism in our communities, in shared idiosyncrasies. We’re both hyper-
There’s no such thing as treating your skin our workplaces, and in our circles of in- vigilant, we’re fast thinkers, and we love
too nicely. It’s what I love about my Pond’s. fluence. It is not enough to stand as an ally. dogs—we’ve got lots of them now. We’ve
Keep a jar of it nearby, and when you’re We must go further and be anti-racist. been watching movies and TV together,
watching TV at night, take a little out, rub and since my sons love to listen to music,
it into your cuticles and maybe even your As a true agent for change in this nation, we’ve been doing a lot of that too. It’s
toes. It feels good. It feels like you’re tak- if you were given an opportunity to join funny because both of them have come
ing care of yourself, and maybe it does a Biden administration, would you take into my room with one of my songs play-
make you look a little better over time. ing and said, “Mama, you sing this song?
it? Right now the focus is on getting Joe You wrote this? Wow, I didn’t know that!”
Speaking of taking time for oneself, how Biden and Kamala Harris elected, win- [laughs] It’s really sweet. Che came to a
do you recalibrate after running in a pres- ning the Senate, keeping the House, and concert I did for the LGBTQ+ community
getting Democrats in office up and down and saw me sing live for the first time, and
idential race the way that you did? Well, the ballot. Lives, livelihoods, and our that was so meaningful to me. They
when I dropped out, I went from working entire democracy are on the line. That’s haven’t seen my new film, Music, yet, but I
24/7 to run for president to working 24/7 what I’m focused on. want to bring them to the première with
to try to deal with an unfolding pan- Do you have a personal motto? Persist. It me because they’ve never done anything
demic and a president who had no plans. really is. You get knocked on your fanny? like that before.
It was jumping from one fight to an- Persist. You have an idea that people tell
other... Because of the circumstances, you will never work? Persist. You have a The truth is becoming a mom has
there just wasn’t time to kick back and goal. You got a dream. Persist. n changed me in every way. I’ve learned
grow a beard and do the things that other how to be patient and compassionate. I’ve
politicians have done when they’ve left Sia on Motherhood learned how to set strong boundaries. I’ve
office [or a race]. learned that as a single parent I need a
The [James] Comey beard. That’s right. CONTINUED FROM PAGE 130 great support system so I can ask ques-
tions about what’s normal and what’s not.
We often ask women featured in the been fantastic to have this instant family. I’ve learned what it means to uncondi-
magazine about ambition. Men are ex- But as rewarding as it is, it can also be very tionally love another person. But the
pected to be ambitious, but women are worrying. Sometimes I get frightened be- most important thing I’ve learned is that
often criticized for that same thing, es- cause my sons are young Black men, and just because my sons didn’t come out of
pecially in politics. How have you man- statistically, given their histories, they me 19 years ago doesn’t mean they’re not
could both end up in trouble or in jail. my children. I’ve already started thinking
aged that? I like women who fight back, They have been systemically led in that about adopting more kids. And I’ve real-
who speak up, who demand change, and direction. I’ve realized that there are cer- ized that this is exactly the way that moth-
who get big things done. I had people tell tain things we aren’t compatible with too, erhood was supposed to happen for me.
me back in 2011 that a woman would and that is really hard. Most of their lives
never be elected senator from Massa- they’ve been conditioned to lie and ma- Sia will make her directorial début in
chusetts. I had people tell me back then nipulate, so the past year has been all the upcoming film Music.
that we would never beat the big banks about teaching them how to become rigor-
to get a consumer agency. But you don’t
get what you don’t fight for.
What advice do you have for someone
who perhaps is a schoolteacher and does
have political ambitions or interests? I
never thought I’d get into politics, so it’s
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