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QUALIFIED HERE WE

COME
WORLD CUP
QUALIFIERS

PREVIEW

KEVIN
GALLACHER

Interview

FANS WITH
MICROPHONES

With Charles Paterson

IAN CROCKER
Interview

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The Hampden Roar

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interview, read the facebook feedback comments on VAR, Sky Sports
presenter Luke Shanley’s love affair with Scotland, Richard
McBrearty column, read the views of Scottish Football
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Message from The First Minister of Scotland,
Nicola Sturgeon.

As we go to print, there are real concern’s that The Euros 2020 matches, that are due to be hosted at
Hampden in June, could be moved by UEFA to another country if they do not receive the necessary
guarantees that fans will be allowed to attend.
First minister Nicola Sturgeon explains:
“There’s a deadline by which all countries have to get an indication to UEFA about what they think will be
possible in terms of fan attendance and fan zones. “All countries are grappling with this, not just Scotland.
While we’re really hopeful that we can be optimistic, looking too far ahead is difficult to do.  “Let me be very
clear, we are absolutely intent on having the Euros, having Hampden as one of the host stadiums, particularly
so we can see Scotland play at Hampden as well.  “Can I say that while nothing in a global pandemic can
be certain when you’re looking far into the future, I very much want and hope to be one of the Tartan Army
fans cheering on Scotland at Hampden later in the year. Let’s keep our eyes on that prize. “My final point is
that we all have got a part to play in making it possible. “We haven’t waited so long to see Scotland play in
a major tournament to not do absolutely everything we can to ensure there are going to be fans there to
cheer the team on.”

LOOK OUT FOR NEXT EURO SPECIAL ISSUE
featuring an exclusive interview with Andy Roxburgh the manager
who not only guided Scotland to a World Cup Final, but was the
first to lead us to The Euro Finals. Also an interview with the
Scotland legend Jim McCalliog as he discusses our Euro chances
of success and describes his winning goal at Wembley in his
debut in 1967, that made us unofficial World Champions!
02 And lots more…

CONTENTS March 2021

4–5 Kevin Gallacher Interview 11 Steve Clarke in his own words Front Cover Photo by Colin Robinson Imaging
6 Euros 2020 Here We Come
7 The Virtual Tartan Army 12 Shelley Kerr in her own words
Ian Crocker Interview 12 Scotland’s Women’s National Team
8–9 Hampden Roar Podcast 14–15 Interim Head Coach
10 Fans With Microphones

16 Looking forward to the World Cup Qualifiers

For the first time since we started this magazine way back in 2005, I can at last say on behalf of everyone
involved in the magazine the iconic words “We’ve qualified”, and what a truly great feeling that is.

Like the rest of the country I was sitting at home watching the final Euro qualifier
game unfold in Serbia as the team performed heroics to get that winning result. It
should have been over in 90 minutes but that would be far to straight forward for
Scotland, wouldn’t it? So after surviving a nervy extra time the team went on to
score five out of five penalties leaving the stage set for David Marshall to heroically
save the last penalty to set the nation wild with delight.

Although we were all stuck at home due to the pandemic, social media ensured that Marshall: Can I boogie ref?
we could join in and watch fellow fans celebrate along with the team. The behind Ref: yes sir, you can boogie
the scenes Scotland team celebrations soon went viral as we partied the night away.
‘Yes sir, we can boogie’ overnight became the new tartan army anthem. Lets hope
we can sing that inside stadiums in the not too distant future.

Before these finals in June, we have three World Cup qualifying games coming up
and as usual we would like to wish Steve Clarke and the boys the best of luck.
Finally, as always, thank you to all who have contributed to this edition.
Iain Emerson, Editor

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SCOTLAND’S INTERNATIONAL HONOURS

Kirin Cup Winners 2006
British International Championships
Outright wins 24 times – 1884, 1885, 1887, 1889, 1894, 1896, 1897, 1900, 1902, 1910, 1921, 1922, 1923,
1925, 1926, 1929, 1936, 1949, 1951, 1962, 1963, 1967, 1976, 1977.
Title shared with at least one other nation
17 times – 1886, 1890, 1903, 1906, 1908, 1912, 1927, 1931, 1935, 1939, 1953, 1956, 1960, 1964,
1970, 1972, 1974

TARTAN ARMY AWARDS

Winners: UEFA Fair Play Award, Euro 1992. Runners-up: (but should have won) UEFA Fair Play Award, Euro 1996
Winners: Fair Play Prize 2001. Awarded by Belgian Olympic Committee for sportmanlike conduct during qualifying
game versus Belgium (the first and only time the award has been presented to anyone outside Belgium).
Awarded: Scroll from Birmingham Council for Outstanding Conduct and Friendliness. Euro 1996.
Awarded: Engraved crystal football awarded to the Tartan Army and Scotland Manager Craig Brown by The Scottish Tourist
Board 1999. Since Scotland hasn’t qualified for any major finals since 1998, the Tartan Army hasn’t been able to scoop any
more awards, so we’ll give it one instead....
Awarded: Best Supporters in the World Ever, no messing, presented to the Tartan Army by The Famous Tartan Army Magazine 2019

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Finally, Scotland have reached their IGKNEATVLELIRNAVCIEHWER playing in that game was special, it was a
first major international tournament great campaign and I absolutely loved it.”
since the 1998 World Cup in France. got announced and your name’s not there,
One of the key members of that squad I just thought “you’ve just told me lies!” Having now re-established himself into the
was Kevin Gallacher, who took time to I was disheartened by it to be told that. I squad, there was just one thing missing from
speak to JOHN BLEASDALE about his went away to Zimbabwe with Coventry, Kevin Gallacher’s international career – a
International career. when I came back, I went on holiday and goal. That moment finally came on his 16th
FRANCE ’98 will always have a big place turned my back on it, didn’t watch any of appearance in a USA ’94 qualifier away to
in the hearts of the Tartan Army. There was the games and just let it go by and tried to Estonia. One notable recollection about the
the glamour of opening the tournament get my head down to see what I’d done goal, which opened the scoring in a 3-0 win,
against World Champions Brazil in the wrong to get myself back to try and get into was the away kit that we wore that day and
newly built Stade de France, the ecstasy the squad.” he also wore it scoring his second Scotland
of John Collins’ penalty, and the ultimate Lesser players would’ve thrown in the goal in the Stadio Olympico against Italy.
devastation of being trounced by Morocco. towel and not played for Scotland again When asked if the goal drought had been
One of the key reasons why Scotland after that blow, but this made Gallacher playing on his mind, Gallacher simply
reached those World Cup Finals in the first more determined. Continuing to make answered: “Never! It never really played
place was the goals of Kevin Gallacher. Out an impression down south paid off as he on my mind. People just look at the caps,
of the nine he scored in his 53 International was named in Roxburgh’s squad for the they don’t look at the time on the field,
appearances, six of them came in the Euro ’92 Finals in Sweden, Scotland’s and that’s what people should be looking
qualifying campaign that helped the Scots first appearance in the European at. You could go and get 25 caps, but it
qualify for the tournament as the best Championships. Of course, we were could be ten minutes in every single game.
runners-up. Yet it was all very different for put in the ultimate group of death with That was the difference so, for me, there
the former Dundee United, Coventry City, reigning European Champions Holland, was no pressure on me, the manager was
Blackburn Rovers, Newcastle United and reigning World Champions Germany, saying I was doing what he was asking of
Preston North End front man eight years and Euro ’88 runners-up CIS, formerly me, the only thing that’s missing was trying
earlier. Believing he was destined for Italia Soviet Union. Scotland were not to get that goal. It’ll come, keep trying
’90, Gallacher was dealt a huge blow by disgraced as they went down 1-0 to the hard, keep plugging away, and that’s what
Andy Roxburgh, who’d given him his debut Dutch and 2-0 to the Germans, before I did. Inevitably it’s going to come along,
against Colombia two years earlier, that he rounding off their Swedish adventure when you wearing a salmon pink strip, it’s
wouldn’t be making the final cut. Naturally, with a comprehensive 3-0 win over CIS. going to happen for you. To wear that strip
Gallacher didn’t take the news well having Gallacher came off the bench in the opening thinking “oh my god, this is better on the
done everything that Roxburgh asked of two matches and started against CIS, an beach than on the park,” I don’t care, it was
him to get him into the squad, including experience he found enjoyable, particularly LOVELY on the park, I’ll wear that salmon
moving from United to Coventry to get when the team visited the Tartan Army at pink strip any time because that’s the one
regular first team football. a nearby campsite prior to that final game. that brought me the goal.”
He said: “It was a sore one to take. “I remember going to the campsite,” The next two years of Gallacher’s career
Speaking to Andy Roxburgh about the ’90 he recalled, “We go in and it’s almost were hampered with injury, in particular two
World Cup, I was in and out of the United apologetic to the fans and things, going leg breaks within 13 months at Blackburn.
side, my form wasn’t at its best, and he said around talking to them, and they were However, he managed to battle back and
“Kevin look, the only way I’m going to be brilliant. You can’t take that away, they’re forced himself into the squad for the Euro
able to pick you to get into the ’90 World the Tartan Army, wherever they’ve gone ’96 Finals, which were being played in
Cup squad pal is if you’re playing regularly.” around the world have been phenomenal, England. Having started the 0-0 draw with
January ’90 came around, and Jim McLean everywhere you go it’s just fantastic. It was Holland in the opening game, Gallacher
sold me to Coventry and that was my ticket, great, great just to go in there because I didn’t get onto the park for the matches
if I could perform for Coventry, that was my don’t know if there’s been any National against England and Switzerland. It would
ticket to the World Cup in my eyes because team that’s actually done that, going to a be easy to assume that he would’ve felt
I was going to be playing every week. I campsite to speak to the fans. We went in frustrated at not getting on, particularly
did, I played every week, I was doing well, and it was a great day. It was going into the the Swiss game when Scotland needed a
I was playing more consistent than I’d ever last game, we knew it was a nothing game, second goal to oust the Dutch instead of
played, but to be told that you had to be we knew there would be big changes and going out on goal difference, but Gallacher
playing regular to get into the World Cup we knew we had the opportunity to do it. saw the bigger picture. He said: “The way I
squad was the wrong wording that Andy CIS still had an opportunity, they were a look at it is there was other strikers there as
used. So, for me to be playing regularly, really good side, we just went out and gave well that probably merited their opportunity
when it was time to be playing in the B it our best shot, and fortunately for us, when before me. I’d be wrong to say I wasn’t
internationals, I played in the internationals we shot, this time it hit the target and went disappointed that I didn’t get on, but you’re
running into it, but then when the squad into the back of the net. It was good to claim part of a squad, you’re there to back up
that I started the game and we actually won the players, and when your opportunity
04 it, maybe if I’d started against Germany, comes take it. Against Switzerland, we quite
we’d have done something better! Just fancied ourselves, and ok we only won 1-0,
with Coisty scoring a worldie that day was
phenomenal. That was a good start, we only
needed one or two more goals if England
won 1-0, but when England are 4-0 up it
kind of changes the aspects of the game.
We’re through, we’re literally through to the
next round then, all of a sudden, England
let us down, they let Holland score. Just
watching that from the sidelines I’m thinking
just get me on, but there were other strikers
there who had that opportunity.”
Onto the qualifying campaign for France
’98, and a rejuvenated Kevin Gallacher was
about to hit his purple patch for Scotland.
Scoring goals on a regular basis for
Blackburn, he was now ready to take that
onto the International stage, and done so in
style with six goals from five qualifiers that
fired us to the World Cup.

Kevin Gallacher interview continued... another 22 and a half years before we’d Kevin played for three more years in the dark
qualify again. blue of Scotland. He earned his 50th cap
The run started with a double against Austria The ’98 squad was a special squad with a away to San Marino, made his last Scotland
at Celtic Park. His second goal that night great team spirit built by Manager Craig appearance against the same opposition
was one of the best goals of Gallacher’s Brown. Such was the spirit that a fair number in 2001, and scored his last Scotland goal
career with a stunning, instinctive half volley of them all met up for a 20th anniversary away to Croatia in October 2000. As the
into the top corner of Michael Konsel’s goal. special at the Hilton, Glasgow in 2018. It class of ’98 gradually moved on, more than
Reminiscing of that strike, he said: “Just was a great night with the squad giving two decades of tournament famine were
talking about it, I get goosebumps! When their recollections of the French adventure. beginning. Fortunately, we are now in a
that incident happened, I was raging at Paul Giving his recollections, Gallacher said: “It position where we can look forward to a
Lambert because I was free, and it was one Finals for the first time since 1998 thanks
of the first times I got away from the centre was good when the whole to that penalty shootout win in Serbia. With
half. He was looking for, I think, Gordon reunion thing was coming up, Hampden matches against Czech Republic
Durie, he’s hit the ball and it’s ricocheted and I thought it was a great and Croatia on the horizon, and a trip to
over to me, and instincts said to chest it idea, I couldn’t miss out on Wembley sandwiched in between, there is
down and shoot. I didn’t realise I had so that. It was a great squad; we renewed optimism with the men’s National
much time, I could’ve chested it down, had a great bunch of guys. team once again.
kept it up for five, and then had a shot. But Now a pundit, Gallacher hopes to be at the
I didn’t, pure instincts said take it down on We had some squabbles, games in some capacity, and is optimistic
your chest and shoot. I knew it was a good we got together, we were that Scotland can end another hoodoo
goal the way I hit it, the way it’s gone, to see teammates, we spoke to each and progress to the knockout stages for
it on the TV that evening I thought “WOW other, we drank together, we the first time in major tournament history.
it’s a great goal.” The next day, in the team ate together, we done a lot of He said: “It is a difficult group but I think,
talk, we had a little video technician called things together even though when we know that the three nations that
Brian Hendry, and Brian went “Kevin, Kevin, we only met up with each we’re playing against are, probably, slightly
you need to see this, this is unbelievable!” I better than us, they’ll probably rise to that
said I know I’ve seen the goal; I’m replaying other once a month. It was occasion better. Being underdogs probably
in my head but he says “no I’ve got the best great when it happened suits us, the expectations won’t be so high,
angle; I’ve got better than the television.” and to go and see guys that so for me it’s an opportunity to go on and
He was actually right behind the post it hit are in shape, out of shape, impress the world. Forget about the result,
and went in, so you far wider of the goal the re-shaped, unrecognisable, if we go and do well, just show people that
ball goes and comes back in and it’s re-recognisable, it was brilliant. There was Scotland are back on the map again, and
unbelievable. So, when you only a small majority of us that could make the fans will show them that this is what
see it on TV it’s a fantastic it, you’re never going to get the full quota you’ve been missing – for partying.”
goal, but when I see it on of people at the same time, but it was Reflecting on his career, Kevin Gallacher
this little video that he made good to see some of the guys together, has much to be proud of in his 13-year
up for my 50th cap, it’s just and they bring back memories as well from Scotland career that earned him 53 caps
sublime and it just goes up in different parts. We were all there at the one and 9 goals. Fighting back from two career-
the rankings as one of my top competition but we had different stories on threatening injuries to fire Scotland to the
goals ever.” the same day! I found that weird because 1998 World Cup Finals will always hold him
Going into the World Cup, you’re scratching your head thinking “I in high regard with the Tartan Army, and
there was a more relaxed can’t remember that,” but you know you that respect is very much reciprocated from
feeling for Kevin Gallacher were there and you know that you’re in the him to the fans.
knowing that his place was same room, but you were at a different part
pretty secure, whereas previous talking to a different person.” 05
campaigns he had to fight off
stiff competition to get into
the squad. Now he was about
to realise a boyhood dream by
coming up against the mighty Brazil, albeit
this was the World Cup Finals and not Final
as he’d imagined in his garden.
Speaking about the build-up, he recalled:
“I’ve always had a dream as a kid to play
for Scotland and play in a World Cup Final,
and play against Brazil in that World Cup
Final. That was in my Mum and Dad’s back
garden, that was my childhood playday,
England in the Semi Finals, beat them on
penalties, and then it was Scotland v Brazil
in the Final before my tea. You never think
that one day that can happen, because
that’s a childhood dream. All of a sudden,
December comes along and you get the
draw, opening game of the World Cup,
Scotland versus Brazil! I was thinking “oh
my god, this is my World Cup Final, my
dream as a child has come true!” It’s just
a shame that it’s Finals with an s on it and
not Final, and that was the thing, this was
a dream that I was dreaming about since
I was a kid that could happen one day
and there it was.” Despite their heroics
for their performance against the World
Champions, Scotland went down 2-1 to the
World Champions. A draw with Norway in
the next game, followed by that nightmare
against Morocco, meant that, yet again,
Scotland failed to progress to the knockout
stages. Little did we know that it would be

EUROS 2020
HERE WE COME

By Wilf Parkinson

“Ch Ch Changes” sang David Bowie. Was qualifiers. As the Euros have 24 teams at Ahardfought0-0drawledtotheScotsgoing
such a sentiment ever more apt? the finals there were therefore four places through to the final 5-3 on penalties. In the
Yes. Love it or loathe it the Nations League still to be awarded. previous magazine we asked our National
looks likely to stay. How do we as Scottish This is where the Nations League comes Team to ‘Stand up and be Counted’ and
fans view it? well as we have just qualified into it’s own. Thirty five countries who had the duly did. So it came to pass. On 12th
simply the answer must surely be that We failed to qualify via the traditional route had November Scotland played Serbia away
Love it! another way through which to access the from home in the final. However it wouldn’t
finals. be Scotland without the drama, would it?
Well it is the vehicle through which Scotland The Nations League Competition has a In 52 minutes Ryan Christie put us ahead.
have gained access to the European different approach to structuring groups as Yet as seemed destined to happen, Serbia
Football Championships Finals in summer teams are placed with opponents of similar scored in the 90th minute and extra time
2021 (delayed 2020 Championships). and then penalties followed. However, after
rankings. Scotland had previously David Marshall’s excellence in goals and five
Previous Manager Gordon Strachan is in won their group consisting of Albania well taken penalties later, we were through
favour of it as he felt it replaced meaningless, and Israel, in 2019. (Points totals: 5-4 on penalties. After 22 long years, we
friendlies, discouraged call offs, provided Scotland 9, Israel 6 and Albania 3). were at last through to a tournament Final!
occasional opportunities to try new players However, we could not wallow in the
and formations as well as raising interest A total of sixteen nations qualified ecstasy for long. We had a little matter of
for spectators. More importantly for us from the above groups to play off two games in the Nations League Groups
Scots, it boosts our chances for the remaining four Euro places. of 2020 to play to complete our section.
of making finals tournament The ‘competition with confusion’ Yes, we played in 2 separate Nations
– something we have been allows automatic entry to the League tournaments in the same month,
missing since the 1990’s. next stage to group winners, but no wonder fans were getting confused, or
Therefore the Nations League, also allows for entry to a few maybe that was just us !
in it’s own right, is an important others based on a system of These final two games were against
tournament for countries like Slovakia and Israel (them again) on Sunday
Scotland. In Scotland’s case the 15th and Wednesday 19th respectively and
Autumn of 2020 created that both away from home.
challenge – a challenge which
fortunately our team rose to. Was it totally surprising that
the team didn’t quite repeat
Let’s review how this rankings during the Nations their heroics of a few days
League group matches reflecting results earlier? Maybe not.
competition works. In Europe we and points gained. The play offs of the As it was, both games ended
have 55 competing countries. This number in narrow 1-0 defeats. We
grew when European states were broken 2019 Nations League was to be played in finished on 10 points – 2nd
March 2020.Then came the Corona Virus. behind the Czech Republic
down during the 1980’s and 90’s. The The Euro Championships of 2020 who had 12 points and who
European Championship Qualifiers consists we had ironically beaten twice!
of 10 groups with 5 or 6 countries in each. were cancelled. Looking forward, it is not
By late summer, early impossible that we qualify for
Countries are ranked 1st to 55th dependent autumn, Nations League the World Cup Finals – to be played in
on previous results. The groups are drawn Qatar later next year – but it will be difficult.
using a selected system with top ranked competition was resumed. However we can set about qualifying
Four (pathway groupings) soon (see elsewhere in the magazine) via
teams placed in different groups to ensure were created at this stage, our World Cup Qualification section. The
a broad performance level over all groups. traditional route? never say never!
This serves to reduce upsets and support four countries in each. The
teams would play in a cup-
top ranked teams to qualify for the finals. tie type system i.e. four
During the Euro Qualifiers in 2019, Scotland
missed automatic qualification from their semi-finalists which would
create two finalists then
group – won by Belgium with 30 points and one winner.
Russia runners up on 24 points. Scotland
finished third with 15 points. This was
helpful for their automatic world rankings Each Pathway Group would create one
but denied them automatic qualification. winner. Thus four Pathway Groups would
create four winners who became European
Ten groups therefore provided ten winners Championship QUALIFIERS.
and ten runners up – a total of twenty
Almost unbelievably Scotland found
themselves playing Israel again, despite
having come from the same previous group
– such is the system of qualifications and
grading rankings.

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IAN CROCKER INTERVIEW

For twenty two and a half years, Sky Sports has been covering Scotland Internationals
live to the nation. Primarily, their voice behind the mic is IAN CROCKER, who also
covered games for the IMG World feed and Setanta from 2006 to 2009. Here he
speaks to JOHN BLEASDALE about his time commentating on Scotland games,
and why he was as delighted as the Tartan Army were that our wait for a major
tournament came to an end in Serbia.

SCOTTISH Football has a list of great David Marshall’s wonder save from covering Scotland, I was able to call one
commentators over the years who Aleksandar Mitrovic gave us that long of his goals, I think it was quite a decent
have had the privilege of covering the awaited happy ending. one as well. Early days, but Craig Brown
national team through some memorable Whilst Marshall waited for the referee’s was always a great help to me as well, he
occasions. From Arthur Montford to approval, everyone else began the used to give me all the scouting reports
Archie McPherson, from Jock Brown celebrations, including Ian himself. of the teams that they’d faced, which
to Rob McLean, our game has had Speaking of the contrasting experiences, when it was Estonia, the Faroes, the San
memorable voices to tell the story of the he said: “I remember saying, when the Marino’s was always a big help because,
highs and lows that come with Scotland ball went out for that corner, “I actually as a commentator, you never got to see
internationals. feel sick” and I did because we all just them play much back then so it was
For the last twenty two and a half years, knew, in such a typically Scottish way, handy to have all the information about
the voice of Scottish Football has been what was coming next. Yeah, you fear the players. There’s not many managers
Ian Crocker. The man from Dorset was the worst, and certainly in extra time that would do that these days, they’re a
handed the microphone by Sky Sports Serbia looked the more likely, but to go bit more cautious, but Craig was always
in 1998 when they secured rights for to penalties and David Marshall once very good for that.”
the Scottish Premier League, Scottish again of course. I know he was waiting to As Ian mentions, Craig Brown was a great
Cup and Scotland home internationals. check that he hadn’t gone off his line, but help in his early days for researching the
Coincidentally, Scotland had failed to I wasn’t waiting for that! I’d already gone opposition, which was very useful given
qualify for any of the next ten major away with the fairies and quoting Flower that video footage of Estonia and the
tournaments, prompting people to think of Scotland and everything, so it would’ve Faroe Islands was very limited in the days
that he was a jinx to the National Team. been some reverse gear I’d have to before YouTube and other online video
On 12 November 2020, the Curse of screech into had that not been allowed. platforms. Despite those limitations,
Crocker was finally lifted as Scotland He did do the right thing I should’ve Crocker found other ways of carrying out
ended their barren run with that actually waited for him and waited for the his research.
memorable penalty shootout win in signal but, when you’ve been waiting for “For Scotland players, you knew them
Serbia. “YES, ONE BIG YES, it’s a happy 22 years to call it, I thought what the heck fairly well,” he said. “So, it wasn’t really
ending for Scotland for a change” was his I’m just going for it!” problem and, as I say, Craig Brown really
cry after David Marshall’s penalty sent a Due to Covid restriction, Crocker helped me out with loads of information,
nation into euphoria. Whilst it was a relief commentated from the studios at Sky giving me an early shout on the team.
for us fans that 22 and a half years of pain rather than being in Belgrade, only For the visiting teams really, it was a case
came to an end, it was a similar feeling reporter Luke Shanley represented of doing more research, so I’d always
for Crocker who has went through every the Broadcaster abroad. It was a go along to watch Estonia or whoever
emotion watching Scotland from the contrast to his first Scotland match in train the night before. They’d train at the
commentary position. his capacity as Sky’s leading Scottish stadium they were playing for about an
He said: “The way it happened, the high Football commentator, which wasn’t hour and a half, find a helpful Estonian
drama, was so typical of Scotland to kind at Hampden, but at Tynecastle for the or whoever, and sus the players out
of do it that way – except with one thing Euro 2000 qualifier against Estonia and just get a look at them. It’s not easy
being different! The ending, of course, whilst the National Stadium was sometimes in winter when they’ve all
a happy ending. Really pleased for being redeveloped. It was the perfect got hats and everything, you can’t really
everyone, the players, fans, Steve Clarke, introduction for him to sample what the tell then. You also picked up a nugget
us, we’ve waited so long in covering Tartan Army go through watching the of information here and there, so that’s
Scotland to see this happen and it’s National Team as Craig Brown’s men the kind of unseen part of it all. I stood
amazing really that it took 22 years, 23 by twice came from behind to win 3-2 thanks watching teams in the rain a few times
the time we get to play the tournament. to a Billy Dodds double either side of an at Hampden, and I remember going
But it happened, and they’re there and it own goal from Sergei Hohlov-Simpson. to watch them (Faroes) train at Cove
certainly gave the nation quite a lift.” That was quickly followed with his second Rangers, and I went to watch that in a
It looked as though there was going to game four days later, a 2-1 win over Faroe monsoon as well but still picked up a bit
be more heartache for Scotland when Islands at Pittodrie. of information. As I say, Craig was good
Luka Jovic equalised in the 90th minute, Recalling those first games, Crocker said: in handing over his scouting reports and,
and the pain was felt in Crocker’s “oh “It (Estonia) was a good game at a stadium generally, you’d try and get videos of the
no” description. Fortunately, the Scots which is guaranteed a terrific atmosphere. teams they were playing, it’s a bit easier
converted all of their penalties before It was a very long time ago, if I thought now than it was back then I recall. But a
then I’d be commentating on Scotland lot of research goes into it and I end up
Craig Brown, 22 years later I’d think somebody would with two sheets of paper with information
be having a laugh. It was a squad that on all the players that would be involved,
08 a great help was coming off the back of the ’98 World and general information about the game.
Cup, had decent players as well, and they If the game’s good, you don’t generally
went to Aberdeen for a game (Faroes) a
few days later. I remember Craig Burley
scoring because I’ve known Craig since
he was a young player coming through
at Chelsea, and we’d always got on so I
was quite glad that, in the first week of

Ian Crocker interview continued... only say as you find. Bar the odd numpty against Czech Republic and Croatia
use many stats, but sometimes in the giving me grief on Twitter or wherever, being played at Hampden, and a trip
International arena, games can be a bit iffy. everyone’s been good about it and, like I to Wembley to face the Auld Enemy
I remember doing Norway v Azerbaijan say, I’ve become a Scotland fan. I’d watch sandwiched in between, the excitement
once, which finished 0-0, and absolutely Scotland ahead of England, no danger!” is already at Fever Pitch as we build up to
nothing happened for 90 minutes, you Despite not reaching a World Cup or the first major finals appearance in, what
get the odd game like that so it’s handy European Championship Finals during will be, 23 years.
to have something to fall back on.” that initial 22 year period, there have With BBC and STV having the rights for the
Crocker’s co-commentator for those been some great moments to look back delayed Euro 2020, it is unlikely Crocker
games was Alan Brazil, with John on over the last 22 years. The home will be able to complete the journey and
Robertson predominantly assisting him and away victories over France, the 1-0 commentate on the Finals. He does,
for the early SPL matches. Since 1999, win over Holland, defeating England at however, fancy our chances of going into
it’s been mainly Davie Provan being Wembley in the last international of the unchartered territory – qualification for
Crocker’s wingman for International millennium, Shaun Maloney’s winner the knockout stages. He said: “I might
duty during his two spells at Sky, either against the Irish at Parkhead and running try to see if there’s work anywhere else I
side of his Setanta and World feed days. respective World Champions Italy, can snaffle to, because having done the
The duo has become one of the most Spain and Germany close at Hampden. dirty work for 22 years it would be great
respected commentary partnerships on Of course, those iconic moments are to commentate in a major tournament.
the circuit and they’ve maintained a great mirrored by some horrific experiences Unlikely as it stands at the moment but, in
relationship over the past two decades, like Georgia twice, Slovakia away and many ways, I might quite like to sit down
as Crocker explains. “Amazingly, we’re that second leg against the Dutch in the and just watch it on the telly. People say
not sick of the sight of each other yet! Euro 2004 playoff. to me “you’ll be supporting England,”
Obviously, we’ve had many trips abroad When asked what his best and worst not really. When you’ve done Scotland
with each other, not just with Scotland but moments covering the National team for 22 years, I’d be hoping that they go
in the Champions League as well. We’ve were so far, Ian said: “The best would and have a decent group. I think they
been away to a few places, been really probably be the one against France I could cope with the Czech’s, Croatia are
lucky in terms of doing that. We cross think, although I didn’t do the one over obviously a decent team, and England
paths occasionally on Premier League there with that goal. I did the one at is one of them, effectively a local derby
matches now and talk all the time. When Hampden so that was pretty good, it was where anything can happen. You know
you work with somebody for so long, for the World feed. The worst, there’s Steve Clarke, tactically, will be all over
same with Andy Walker, you get to know been a few, there were some very grim it, and it honestly wouldn’t surprise me
each other so well that, hopefully, we friendlies over the years, particularly when if they went and got a 1-1 or something
don’t crash each other, there’s nothing Berti Vogts was in charge. Hungary 3-0 at like that.”
worse! You still hear it sometimes on home springs to mind but, to be honest, Having been the voice of Scottish
other commentaries when people are there’s been a few grim friendlies. I’m not Football for over 22 years, Ian Crocker
talking on top of each other all the time a great fan of friendlies to be honest, but is slowly adapting to being an honorary
and crashing. It happens occasionally but, we have to grin and bear them. There Scotsman. He now lives North of the
because we know each other so well, were a few over the years, hard to pick Border and supports our National Team
that we know when to stop and when to out one, but some of the one’s when Berti over England. But will he complete the
come in and so on. I just shout out a few was in charge might be top of the list.” transition and dawn the kilt at Wembley?
names, they’ve got to do all the analysis Those worst moments are now a thing of “I’ve never tried a kilt” he said with a
and the hard bit so fair play to them.” the past with Scotland now reaching the smile, “I’ve tried most things to be fair but
Many Scotland fans at that time had a delayed Euro 2020 Finals. With matches not the kilt yet. Maybe one day!”
perception about English commentators, The voice of Ian Crocker has been as
particularly when it came to matches synonymous with Scottish Football over
involving their National team. Tales of ’66, the last 22 years as glorious failure, only
cries of “England expects” from Messrs this time the failure was in qualification
Motson, Moore, Davies and Tyldsley has and not getting past the first round in
not always gone down well, no matter a major tournament. Now we can put
how highly respected those names are in the Curse of Crocker to bed after that
their profession. dramatic penalty shootout in Belgrade,
Being an Englishman starting out in and it goes to show that good things
Scottish Football, Ian Crocker has had to come to those who wait – and by god
take such jibes on the chin. However, his he’s had to wait for that iconic moment
personality has seen him shrug that off, in his career!
and he acknowledges that, on the large
part, many fans have been welcoming of 09
him over the years, so much so that he
now sees himself as a Scotland fan over
the Auld Enemy. He said: “I do get a bit
of stick occasionally on social media when
people say that there should be a Scottish
voice commentating on Scotland, and I
get that. I’ve got to say, when you’re out
and about meeting fans and everyone,
they’ve all been terrific! I’ve spent an
awful lot of time in Scotland because I
love it, and yeah there’s a bit of banter
that goes around for sure, well quite a lot
of banter regarding England. Generally, I
find that most people are generous and
they’re welcoming, so it kind of dispels
the myth for many people but you can

FAN interaction in football has never been RPOEVDICEWAST struggle with the podcast is that I’m socially
greater than it is today. Social Media, of opposite to Gordon, he’s got a degree in
course, has provided a platform for fans to In the first of our Podcast Review we marketing and all that, I’m rubbish at social
voice their opinions on the game and also look at The ‘Hampden Roar Podcast’ media and twitter and pushing the podcast.
for players and managers, past and present, I don’t like to be on social media too much,
to engage with the supporters. Whilst there will have played for either Celtic or Rangers, which works against me when you’re
are people who go over the top, on the that I’m not part of a tabloid, I’m trying to trip trying to get your podcasts a lot of listens.
whole it is good to see the interaction across you up with headlines and quotes, I’m just Genuinely, I could have twenty people
the board. Another platform for fans to put genuinely a Scotland fan like many others listening to each episode, as long as they all
across their views on a broadcast level are that are interested in your Scotland career. enjoyed it it wouldn’t bother me. I’d rather
Podcasts. There are many Scottish Football There’s going to be no Old Firm chat, no club have people listening to it who enjoy it than
related podcasts all with their unique selling chat, just pure Scotland, and that is normally several thousand kind of half-arsed tuning
point, from covering their own club to the what caught their attention. When I feel that in tuning out. I get decent numbers on it, it
Senior leagues and even lower league level a player is up for it, I tend not to let it go. doesn’t keep me awake at night, of course
from the Highland League to Junior Football. When I get an ounce of positivity from them, I’d like more listens on it and I try, but having
The Hampden Roar Podcast is unique in that I just try and get it set in stone so I can do my it kind of lower, more exclusive field, doesn’t
the Podcast is exclusively focussed on the preparation. I spend, I reckon, two to three bother me at all.” Andy has every reason
Scotland National Team. Hosted by Andy hours doing prep for each podcast, which I to be happy with Hampden Roar with the
Bargh, who also commentates for Killie TV don’t begrudge at all because I’m interested number of high profile guests he’s had on
and works at Radio Clyde, Hampden Roar and want to do the best that I can.” so far and that his debate podcasts with Ben
has been running for two years and primarily In addition to interviewing former players and Gordon have been just as popular. Going
features interviews with former players and managers, Andy also holds debate style forward, he’s hoping for more of the same of
and managers speaking exclusively about pods with two fellow Tartan Army members, what has made his podcast a success.
their time involved with the National Team. Journalist Ben Ramage and blogger Gordon Speaking of the future of the podcast, Andy
Andrew also has debates with guests, mainly Sheach. Bringing Ben and Gordon onto the said: “I’ve got a list on my laptop of people
Media Scotland sports journalist Ben Ramage podcast came almost at a time where guests that I’d like to interview, I’ve got numbers
and Tartan Scarf blogger Gordon Sheach, to were hard to come by, but have proven to be there that I’ve tried and will try again, I’ve got
preview and review Scotland matches. Andy just as popular. Andy said: “At first I wanted names of ones that I don’t have numbers for
came up with the idea of Hampden Roar to have at least one a month, which did go that I’m trying to get numbers for. Obviously
when he was on holiday in Croatia. He said: to plan for the most part, and then when I you’ve got big ones like Denis Law and
“I was writing for a local paper, the Airdrie started to struggle to get guests on that’s Kenny Dalglish who I’d love to have on, I tried
and Coatbridge Advertiser, and I was starting when I spoke to my colleague Ben when I was Sir Alex Ferguson but I got a no. The one
to think about moving on into the broadcast at the paper. He was writing for the Wishaw that I’d love to get on is Gordon Strachan,
world. But, while I was still working at the Press and then the Paisley Daily Express, so probably followed by Kenny Dalglish.
paper, I was looking to start something of he’s a Sports Journalist and a Tartan Army McFadden, Fletcher, I’d quite like to speak
my own so I was still getting experience. I’ve Member. So I said to him “Ben I’m struggling to Mo Johnston, he was a good striker for
got quite a few mates in football so I thought to get a guest on, why don’t we sit down and Scotland, 14 goals in late 38 caps. I’m going
they can maybe put me in touch with good chat about the current situation?” This was to get back to aiming for one guest per
contacts who have played, like my pal Lewis just before the Kazakhstan and San Marino month. It just depends on, firstly, my effort,
was Motherwell’s media guy for a bit so I double header last year, that was the first but also on the availability and willingness of
knew he’d have a few contacts there and kind of debate style pod that we did, and the guest. If I send a text and get a “sorry
he actually helped set me up with Stephen we were full of optimism talking about six not just now,” I’m not going to get back to
McManus for the first one, which was great points after the opening two games and them a couple of weeks later and say “have
and that got the ball rolling for the Hampden all that, who can come into the squad like you changed your mind,” you need to leave
Roar. It took me ages to set it up, I had trouble Ryan Christie and John Fleck and these sorts it for quite a wee while, maybe they’re busy
with Apple organising the podcast, making of people. After that double header we and have better stuff to do than speak to
the wee intro with the commentary and stuff. reviewed it and it was a totally different tone me about Scotland. If you get someone
It took me a wee while but, after maybe because one of them didn’t go to plan. So that says “try me again in a few weeks” or
about a month to six weeks, I got McManus when there’s a squad announcement for a “that sounds not bad” then I’ll persist with
and it just snowballed very quickly.” After game, I’ll review it with Ben and also Gordon it, but getting that positive reaction first of
interviewing Stephen McManus, Andy has Sheach, who is the blogger at The Tartan all is quite difficult. If I can get back to that
managed to push out another 34 episodes Scarf. Gordon’s really passionate about when I was doing one a month I’d be happy
to date of Hampden Roar, with the majority Scotland, a great guy, very knowledgable because, I don’t get paid for the podcast, it’s
of them featuring exclusive interviews with and into his social media so he’s valuable a great passion of mine so one a month with
former Scotland players and managers. and a good friend of mine to have on as a player, maybe two if I’m lucky, and a debate
Craig Brown, Jim McCalliog, Paul Lambert well, we enjoy doing that sort of that of thing style pod with Gordon and Ben, who are as
and Murdo McLeod followed on very quickly together. When I look at the analytics for the part of the podcast as I am, if I could do that
with the likes of Kenny Miller, Gary Caldwell podcast, the debate style ones get just as once a month as well I’d be fine with that.”
and Willie Miller also giving their account much listens as the interviews, whether we’re
of their time with the National team to debating about what players should come WANTED!
Hampden Roar. When approaching guests, into the squad or transfer window moves for
Andy makes it clear he is only interested Scottish players or reviewing games, I think The Hampden Roar Podcast can be found
to hear about their time with the dark blue people are generally as interested in that on Apple, Spotify and Audioboom. Previous
and not their club sides, and it’s something as what Jackie McNamara or Billy Dodds’s episodes can be found here https://
that has helped lure such names. He said: “I Scotland careers were like.” audioboom.com/channels/4969604 and
found it much easier than I expected to get In the two years Hampden Roar has been you can follow the account on Twitter @
guests on. I think what helped was I would running, Andy is happy with the number of hampdenroarpod
emphasise, and quite a lot of them, naturally, regular listeners his podcast has attracted,
despite his admittance that he could do
er10 more to promote it. The main thing he
highlights is that he enjoys what he does and
the number of listeners is not something he
worries about, as he explains. “The thing I

STEVE CLARKE In his own words...
Scotland navigated their way through try to keep that feel good factor. For the and my wife. It is what it is, we’re not the
the play-offs, winning penalty shoot- players who are in the squad now, I said only ones. Everyone’s going to have to Photo by Colin Robinson Imaging
outs in the semi-final against Israel at after the last camp if you are in the squad suffer and sacrifice a little bit. I think the
Hampden and the final in Serbia. Versus now you can make a good impression. If more we can sacrifice now, the better for
Serbia in the play off final Steve was you aren’t you have to work hard. Every everybody.
told not to celebrate if David Marshall Scottish player now has to work for the Looking forward to EURO 2020 during
saved the vital match winning penalty: rest of the season, thinking and hoping the pandemic
“The most memorable bit for me was they can be involved at Euro 2020 in the It would have been a shame if the Euro
the fourth official who came to the bench summer. “That should be good for the 2020 games were at Hampden and we
just before the penalty David saved and national team and their club sides too.” weren’t involved. Hopefully by the summer
said, ‘If he saves it, because of VAR, don’t Steve considered switching to a back the global pandemic we are suffering, we
celebrate’. That was the most ridiculous four before the play-offs, with midfielder have it under a bit more control. It would
thing you’ve ever heard in your life. Scott McTominay at times exposed be great to have the Tartan Army there,
Because as soon as he saved it everybody as part of the defence. However the but even if we can get even some of them
just took off. “That’s my memory from Scotland’s players talked him out of in it would be great. They have waited a
that moment in the game.” changing his tactics during their Euro long time for this and hopefully in the
2020 qualification campaign. He was summer they can do that.
About David Marshall being told the convinced to stick with a back three.
same as him before the shootout began. The players wanted that system to 11
“The referee told him not to celebrate until work,  It was a big call, but Scott was
the VAR had checked it, Thankfully it came comfortable enough to go back there
down on our side and the rest is history”. and play, and having those two games
Describing the team celebrations that probably helped us just to bed him into
went viral after Scotland qualified the position. He got caught under one
It was a very emotional night, it was tense cross against Israel at Hampden but it
and nervous, all the usual head coach happens. I’ve seen top, top class central
emotions. For the players and the nation defenders get caught under a cross. But
it was a magnificent night. We didn’t that was pointed out as a big mistake.
have many hours sleep after the game. And then we gave the ball away in a
We enjoyed ourselves, but after 22 years terrible position in the Czech Republic
we deserved the moment. Away from and Scott was exposed one v one and
the camera you let your guard down a got done on a little one-two, and he got
bit. I had a chat with the lads when we the blame for that as well. But I could
got back, they made me get up to do see what I was looking for on the pitch.
a speech and it was emotional. It is a I could see the ideas that we had. We
great achievement for everyone - the [Steve and the players] spoke afterwards
players were magnificent that night. “We about whether we would stick with it or
have been working a long time to get go to a back four, and the players were
positivity around the national team and comfortable with the formation so we
we managed to do that going into the decided to go with it.
October games. Speaking about the games after the
historic victory over Serbia
We managed to get the results and we I think we are all disappointed with
said we wanted to make the nation smile how the week finished.  It was a historic
and I think we have done that. From my week for Scottish football. There was no
own personal point of view I had to look lack of endeavour, just a lack of quality
at what I did as a club manager and adapt in the final third of the pitch. We made
that for international football. They aren’t chances and couldn’t get the goal. We
your players, you borrow them and you have to make better choices in the final
have to make them comfortable in your third of the pitch but in just over a year
environment and we wanted the players we have come a long way. I think that’s
to want to be involved. Winning matches really important that we don’t forget that,
makes it easier, the long unbeaten run we don’t go back to the negative ways
has helped us too. If people don’t love and the negativity that was around the
international football now they never will. national team before. We’ve got a lot to
I t was a great moment versus Serbia, 22 look forward to.
years of hurt and misery, glorious failure On the global pandemic
and sometimes not so glorious failure. The health of the nation is the most
We have put that to bed. important, Football-wise for Scotland, it’s
On the age of the Scotland Squad been a fantastic year. The biggest thing
going into The Euros for me was just the satisfaction of getting
The age group of the squad is good and us to a major final. At the first crack,
the number of caps they are picking up is I managed to do it. In such a difficult
good. We can’t keep everyone together, year, it was great for the country that we
one or two will drop out and some others managed to qualify and give everybody
will come in. You have to keep building a lift. Like most of the country, I’ve had a
the group and keep some freshness in big blow. I didn’t get to spend Christmas
it. But the core of this group can go for with my children and my grandchildren,
one or two more tournaments and we will which was a big disappointment for me

Shelley on stepping down from SHELLEY KERR… football and worked at every level of the
her role as Scotland head coach In her own words pathway, it has been the pinnacle to date
after the Scots Women’s Team to get the opportunity to work with such
made it two major finals in a “It’s the right time for me to look ahead a fantastic squad of players.
row with their first World Cup to the next chapter”. “At the start, we set out to inspire the
appearance last year. The Scots’ hopes of a place at Euro nation by implementing a style of football
2022 were dashed following a defeat by that was both exciting and entertaining -
Photo by Colin Robinson Imaging Finland at Easter Road and I believe we achieved that.”
“I’m deeply disappointed to miss out on “I would like to thank the players and
qualification for Euro 2022” support staff who have given their time,
“There were huge expectations expertise and professionalism in the
surrounding the whole team, based on overarching quest to play on a European
our recent successes, but I couldn’t be and world stage. It’s a huge testament to
prouder than to have led the team - as the squad of 40 players who have been
well as the team behind the team - to the instrumental in raising the profile of girls’
Women’s World Cup. and women’s football in Scotland. I know
“I thank the Scottish FA and all who they will continue to inspire the next
supported me in fulfilling my dream of generation.
leading our country to the World Cup “There are many variables in top-level
finals for the first time. I am privileged to sport and despite many challenges, the
have played a part in such an historical team has progressed, developed and
moment in Scottish football. That is proved they can compete on the game’s
something that will live with me forever. biggest stage. I wish them every success
‘The time is right for a new head coach’ and will continue to cheer as a proud,
“I have lived and breathed the sport for passionate Scottish supporter.
as long as I can remember, so I know in “I know the timing is right for me to look
my heart that the time is right for a new ahead to the next chapter, to face new
head coach to take the team forward to challenges and to create and enjoy more
the next campaign. amazing experiences on my journey.”

“I dedicated almost four years to the role Famous Tartan Army Magazine
as national coach. Having spent my life in would like to wish Shelley all the
best in her future.

SCOTLAND WOMEN’S
NATIONAL TEAM INTERIM
HEAD COACH

So who is Stuart McLaren?

After Shelley stepped down Stuart McLaren was appointed Scotland Women’s
National Team Interim Head Coach.
Following the departure of Shelley Kerr, the Scottish FA National Youth Team coach
has taken charge whilst the SFA continues its recruitment process for a permanent
Head Coach. McLaren enjoyed a 14-year playing career, featuring for clubs in
Australia, Scotland, Hong Kong and Malaysia. He also worked in the Queensland
Academy of Sport’s women’s football programme. Stuart took charge of Stirling
Albion in 2014 after retiring from Perth Glory and joined the association as Coach
Education & Development Manager in 2016, during which time he successfully
completed his UEFA Pro Licence.
McLaren was appointed as National Youth Team coach in 2018 – leading the Scotland Under-16s to their Victory
Shield win in 2019 – and has mentored many of the women’s national team players through their coach education
journeys. Stuart McLaren said: “I am delighted to be given the opportunity to lead the women’s national team on
an interim basis as the squad look to refocus and set their sights on competing at a major tournament once again.
“The team were obviously incredibly disappointed not to qualify for the Euros but now we have the chance to
ensure we end the campaign on a high and bring back the feel good factor surrounding the squad before the new
Head Coach is appointed. “The women’s team have done incredibly well over the last few years, inspiring a nation
and I am excited about being given the opportunity to make a positive impact in the short time I have with the
squad, providing the players with the necessary support and guidance.”

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FANS WITH
MICROPHONES

IN OUR LATEST FEATURE ON THE MEN AND
WOMEN BEHIND THE MICS, WE CATCH UP
WITH SKY SPORTS NEWS REPORTER,
CHARLES PATERSON…

“The year before I left school, Scotland One day I knocked on the door of Sky Alistair Alexander – who sadly passed
qualified for the World Cup in France Sports asking if I could work for free, away recently – and David Begg and
and it was all so exciting, unfortunately which I got and I was sorting out the that’s how I got into football with the
however we haven’t been back since. video archives of football matches, excitement and drama surrounding it
So that’s why it’s nice that finally, 23 then I was offered some shifts, and all. I have always adored radio, and in
years later, we have managed to qualify then more shifts, and it snowballed a similar vein what I really like now are
for a major tournament again, and this from there and that evolved into a podcasts, in that people chat away and
time round it will be even better for me career. You have to show an interest you can just listen to it all. I contribute
as I will get a chance to report at it. in your subject matter and obviously to a podcast with some likeminded
At the time when I left school, I covering sport was right up my street. friends who all share a love for the NFL,
remember that I wanted to be a I’ve always felt that journalism is not just and we chat away about it and I love
journalist, however my love of golf about reporting events but also about the freedom of it all.
and interest in history led me to study telling stories, and I feel fortunate that When I made the move in front of
Ancient History, then Medieval History I am in a position now to be able to the camera, I had some great early
at St Andrews, where I graduated after tell peoples’ stories and entertain the experiences and learning curves,
four years. It was only then that I started audience in this field. The beauty of Sky especially as I had to interview regularly
to properly pursue my journalism route Sports for me is that we cover so many the likes of Gordon Strachan. That was
and that’s when I took up a post grad sports, and in the last fifteen years I great for a young journalist, as was
in journalism at Napier University. I have had the opportunity to cover most speaking with Walter Smith; you really
remember when I picked Sport to be events in Scotland including the Ryder had to think about your questions, and
my specialism, the head of department Cup, multiple Open Championships, if you didn’t word it correctly you would
at Napier strongly advised us all against the Commonwealth Games, Scotland get a stare from Walter or Gordon
choosing sport as a career, stating that international rugby tests, international would throw it back at you! Both of
“most sports journalists are just fans football, Champions League games, them are great characters in their own
with laptops”, those were his exact and also the Women’s World Cup in way, and both are always great to speak
words! He was warning us that we France. However undoubtedly the to especially when they are in the right
couldn’t make a career out of it, yet scariest thing I’ve ever done is sit in mood. To interview these managers
looking back, at least back three of us a rally-cross car with F1 champion week in week out – sometimes three
on that course have successfully gone Jacques Villeneuve, test driving a car times a week – was a vital thing to
on to work in sport. which went 0- 60 in 1.3 seconds or be exposed to that helped me learn
Through lots of work placements and something ridiculous like that. I was quickly. I soon understood that the best
volunteering I was gaining experience, absolutely terrified! questions to ask are often short and
but I got no real guidance on how to It took me a long time to get in front concise, which make the interviewee
get a job. I just had to knock on doors of the camera, as I wasn’t sure if that think quickly and therefore you have
and ask for work, any kind of unpaid was what I wanted to do. It was just a more chance of getting an honest
work, which got me contacts and watch and learn brief in my early days answer. Sometimes it’s as simple as
experience under my belt. at Sky; I just learned how it all worked
behind the scenes and in all the with cameraman Steve
at The Nou Camp different departments. My wife used to
comment on my lack of communication
14 skills, and I am actually quite shy, so
it’s ironic now that I’m involved in the
communication industry in front of the
cameras!
My earliest memory watching football
was when I was only six. I vividly
remember the 1988 Scottish Cup final
on the television and the extreme
bright colours of the two teams and
supporters in the glorious sunshine that
day at Hampden, along with Archie
McPherson describing the unfolding of
events and the excitement of it all. It
was amazing.
My other great early football memories
were listening to the football
commentary on the radio. There is
something wonderful about live radio
and listening to the human voice in that
emotive moment. I used to listen to

Charles Paterson continued... Filming with a drone at The Solheim Cup, Gleneagles
saying, ‘Why?’ or ‘Can you expand on
that?’ however you always have to do “had got off to a great flying start in pre-record any interview with them, as
your homework and research, and I’d the campaign” ... I’m sure it’s in the Sky despite them being really well behaved
like to think years later in the business vaults somewhere but I will be happy if they do like a bit of a giggle at times!
I’ve maybe earned a bit of gravitas. it never sees the light of day! That era I’ve been fortunate as well to cover the
I’ve regularly had to interview Celtic was the best I’ve witnessed; Scotland Women’s World Cup and that was great
and Rangers managers over the years, played some great games and nearly to follow the team around France, with
including Brendan Rodgers, Neil qualified, Celtic were in the Champions the highlight being in Paris with 40,000
Lennon, Alex McLeish, Ally McCoist and League, Rangers got to the UEFA Cup fans in the stadium for the match
Steven Gerrard – all big personalities. If final and Aberdeen progressed to the versus Argentina. Unfortunately, they
managers have a go at you, you can’t knock-out stages and played Bayern lost their three-goal advantage and in
take it personally, but you have to stand Munich. typical Scotland style they crashed out,
up for yourself. Sometimes fans can The managers of the national team that but I do feel the penalty retake was a
be a bit star-struck, but in saying that I’ve dealt with over the years all have bit harsh.
I was absolutely that way when I first their own personalities and qualities. Regarding the Euro finals, my big hope
met the great Johan Cruyff. This was at Walter Smith did a great job; however, is that the fans can attend, as currently
The Dunhill Links Golf Championship in I feel he left the job too soon and think going to matches without them has
my first year in 2005, and I approached that if he had stayed on, we would been brutal. I’ve been waiting since I
him thinking “This guy is a god”. I have qualified. Alex McLeish is one was a teenager for Scotland to be back
asked him about the previous night’s of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet in in the finals and I just think it would be
Champions League action, and he football. George Burley was difficult appalling if there were no supporters
came out with some great quotes to get to know as he had a tough time present. I really hope the team do us
about Chelsea playing boring football with the “booze-gate” affair and falling justice and win at least one game and
and Jose Mourinho being a negative out with Kris Boyd. Craig Levein had qualify for the next stages. That would
influence on football, which ran the an interesting time in charge and I’m allow a whole new generation of kids,
whole day on Sky Sports! Johan was a sure he’ll admit he was a bit stubborn like my two boys, to be truly inspired.
lovely guy, a great human being and in at times. I watched some poor team The Scotland national football team
the following years he always chatted performances in that period, but he should be the pinnacle of our game in
away to me at the Dunhill. He is one was always classy in interviews, even this country and a good showing at the
of the few people I have met who when getting asked tough questions Euros would lift the mood of the nation.
I regarded as a superhero, and like when the writing was on the wall for I have a completed 1990 World Cup
everyone else I was saddened when he him. Gordon Strachan, I feel by the Panini album somewhere in my loft,
passed away. end had the team playing some class and on a final note, I’m so looking
It can be hard for a football fan to bury football and again I think it was a forward to getting the opportunity to
their alliegencies and be objective and mistake for him to have to leave when buy the new Panini album and fill in the
also ask difficult questions, but I have he did. For Alex McLeish the second Scotland stickers, for my two boys of
been lucky as I’ve never had a particular time round, it just wasn’t working for course, but mainly for myself!”
football team to support, and so I could him; I think he lost the goodwill after
always put that aside and ask away. the disastrous 3-0 loss to Kazakhstan. Charles was speaking with
The best era, since I started at Sky, was Steve Clarke, after a difficult start, has Iain Emerson
around the Euro 2008 campaign; it was found a way to win after twenty years.
so exciting. At the start of qualifying The fact that he has got us back to the 15
Scotland beat The Faroes 6-0 at Celtic finals will probably make him a legend
Park, and before I knew it I was getting forever!
kitted out by my colleagues in a full When covering Scotland matches,
Scotland kit and being filmed running I’ve been lucky to visit some amazing
down the track at Scotstoun for the places, such as Croatia when I
opening sequence for the next game witnessed Scotland beat the fourth
a few days later, which was against best ranked team in the world 1-0.
Lithuania. It was to outline that Scotland I’ve had many highs and lows along
the way, experienced dilemmas such
Legend as being charged £23 for a pizza in
Switzerland and wondering how I’m
going to justify claiming it back on
expenses! During these travels some
of the best moments are meeting the
fans, and you meet the same ones over
and over again and they are a delight.
However, it is usually a good idea to

Looking Scotland Head Coach
forward to Steve Clarke’s squad for
the World the forthcoming FIFA
Cup World Cup Qatar 2022
Qualifiers Qualifiers had some
welcome additions.
by Wilf Parkinson
In comes striker Che Adams, who
“If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the performance levels on the big stage. They was born in Leicester. He was wanted
kitchen!” – that’s how the saying goes. Well are performing week in week out for top by the Antigua national team as his
it has never been more true for the Scottish clubs and against top opposition on a father is from the Caribbean, and has
fans and the team as we get ready for the regular basis. already represented England U20s,
challenges ahead in the coming weeks and Can they now be harnessed into a formation but the great news for us is that he has
months. which compliments each other? I think they now pledged his international career
Whilst the ‘biggie’ in June will provide us have already shown us that can be the to Scotland. He qualifies for Scotland
with group games in the Euro Finals against case. Can they show tactical awareness, through a maternal grandparent. Che
Czech Republic, England and Croatia to concentration and team spirit under has scored seven times in the Premier
look forward to in our next Euro Special Manager Steve Clarke, who simply has to League this season. He has pace, and
edition of the magazine , we have a busy pull it together, both on and off the pitch. I a great right foot, so here’s hoping he
month of March to undergo first. think they can. We will be up against Israel gets a chance in the up and coming
For the moment we need to focus on our Again after Austria. It will be challenging. If games. Indecently, Che’s cool name
early World Cup ties where qualifications we are to qualify we need to be ‘up for it’- in comes from being named after Ernesto
for the finals in Qatar next year are at EVERY game. “Che” Guevara, the Argentine Marxist.
stake. Scotland have been drawn in group If there are any doubts surrounding players
F against Denmark, Israel (or as we now aptitude, attitude or consistency this will Also in comes Hibs Kevin Nisbet in
refer to them as Israel Again), Austria, Faroe only serve to weaken our campaign and will attack, while defenders Grant Hanley
Islands and Moldova need to be rectified. from Norwich City, and Jack Hendry,
We will not be facing the sections favourites We have the players. They are on the cusp who is currently on loan from Celtic
Denmark until later in the year, however our of potential success as an International side. to Belgium club K.V., are given their
main rivals for potential second spot in the Can they do it? Once again we say “Stand chance too.
group will be lined up against us during the up and be counted!”
week 25-31st March. WE CAN DO IT … GO TO IT LADS! Scotland Head Coach Steve Clarke
said when announcing the squad
First up on that Thursday evening of 25th Photo by Allan Sneddon “Hopefully Che can add goals to the
March is Austria. In the FIFA Rankings they squad and Kevin Nisbet has shown
are positioned 23rd. Scotland meanwhile he’s a good goalscorer and I like his
are ranked at 48th (Israel Again are movement in the box. Hopefully we
ranked at 87th). Austria have some top can start off with a good start to the
experienced players such as Aleksander campaign”
Drogovic in defence and Marko Arnautovic
a prolific goal scorer up front. They are a FIFA World Cup Qatar
very decent side but who, if Scotland play 2022 Qualifiers
to their abilities, can be matched. Scotland v Austria
Hampden Park • 25/3/21 • KO 7.45pm
Might this be Scotland’s time? Israel V Scotland
We qualified for the Euro finals via Nations Tel Aviv • 28/3/21 • KO 7.45pm
League qualifying matches in the Autumn. Scotland V Faroe Islands
This was achieved by a dogged determined Hampden Park • 31/3/21 • KROo7b.4iCn5posmolinn
display. Indications are that we could be a
team on the ascendancy. Imaging
In other words it is
ABOUT WHAT WE DO OURSELVES.
The Scotland team is made up of players
who are good enough to produce individual

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