MCAI AR 2019 E-Book

Rahul Ranade Avadhoot Gupte Somesh Mathur Eknath Dhayalkar
Vice President-Non Film Joint Secretary-Non Film Member-Non Film Member-Non Film

MUSIC COMPOSERS’ ASSOCIATION OF INDIA

A-608, Royal Sands, Behind Infinity Mall, Off New Link Road, Andheri (West), Mumbai 400 053

Tel : 022 2673 3757, 4005 3757, 9167644789

Email : [email protected] Website : www.mcai.in

NOTICE OF ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

NOTICE is hereby given that the Annual General Meeting of the Members of the Association will be
held on Wednesday, 31st March, 2021 at 11.00 AM onwards through Video Conferencing (Link will

be shared or OAVM (Other Audio Video Means) to transact the following business:

AGENDA

ORDINARY BUSINESS

1. To receive, consider and adopt Minutes of the Previous AGM (Annual Report 2019 Enclosed)

2. To receive, consider and adopt the Audited Income & Expenditure Account for the year ended
31st December 2019 and the Balance Sheet as on that date and the Report of the Auditors thereon.
(Annual Report 2019 Enclosed)

3. To receive, consider and adopt the General Secretary’s Annual Report on the activities of the
Association.

4. To appoint the Auditors for the Association for the year ended 31st December, 2020

SPECIAL BUSINESS

5. To announce the results of the election of the Managing Committee Members of the Association
for the next Three years. (Notice Enclosed)

6. To discuss any other matter with the permission of the Chair.

By order of the Managing Committee
Sd/-

Place : Mumbai General Secretary
Date : 26th February, 2021

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MUSIC COMPOSERS’ ASSOCIATION OF INDIA

A-608, Royal Sands, Behind Infinity Mall, Off New Link Road, Andheri (West), Mumbai 400 053

Tel : 022 2673 3757, 4005 3757, 9167644789

Email : [email protected] Website : www.mcai.in

Members desirous of raising any question in the General Body Meeting must send their
Questionnaire in detail to the office of the Association by 24th March 2021 on or before 7.00 p.m.,

failing which the member's question shall not be entertained. Questions will be taken and answered

at the AGM on registering in advance by sending an email to our office email ie:
[email protected] by 24th March 2021 on or before 7.00 p.m. from your registered email ID

and Membership Number and at the AGM wait patiently for your turn to receive the answer by the

relevant office bearers. Members who have been approved to speak, will be given maximum Three

(3) Minutes to speak.

The meeting will commence on time with the quorum present and there shall be no adjournment.

MEETING WILL COMMENCE AT 11.00 A.M. SHARP.

By order of the Managing Committee

Sd/-

Place : Mumbai General Secretary
Date : 26th February, 2021

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Minutes of the Annual General Meeting of the Music Composers’ Association of
India held on 28th September, 2019 at 05.00 PM at “Flag’s Banquet”, Flag's
Avant Garde, Near Marks & Spencer’s, K.R.Basakheter Road, Lokhandwala,
Andheri West, Mumbai - 400 053.

Members Present :
1. Shivani Sinha
2. Hitesh Nijai
3. Pawan Bhatia
4. Vijay Singh
5. Hero Jagmalani
6. Jai Khanna
7. Aashish Rego
8. K.C. Loy
9. Amir Hashmi
10.Mehfooz Hussain
11.Mayur Jumani
12.Aniruddh Trivedi
13.Manish Keshri
14.Tapas Relia
15.Pramod Kumar Kush
16.Ajay Bhatia
17.Dilip Datta
18.Madhukar Anand
19.Santosh Puri
20.Dinesh Rahate
21.Vipin Mishra
22.Sargam Jassu
23.Bhagwan Divekar
24.Mohinderjeet Singh

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25.Sara Dutta
26.Manoj Otari
27.Eknath Dhayalkar
28.Hemangi Mahadik
29.Denial George
30.Avinash Pathak
31.Vinod Bansode
32.Sudhir Saxena
33.Uttank Vora
34.Uday Kumar Ninjoor
35.Raju Singh
36.Shubham Sundaram
37.Yogita Tripathi
38.Ambresh Shroff
39.Syed Ahmed
40.Irshad Sayyad
41.Souvik Chakraborty
42.Vikas
43.S.R. Dehariya
44.Anahita Shetty
45.Rahul B Seth
46.Prateek Panchal
47.Balaji G Kale
48.Brijesh Mehta
49.Manan Mehta
50.Mohit Pathak
51.Suyog Churi
52.Fauzia Arshi
53.Salamat Siddiqui
54.Asa Singh
55.Rahul Ranade

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56. Raj Sen
57. Abhishek Palande
58. Iqbal Darbar
59. Aslam Surty
60. Umed Rajput
61. Sohen Merchant (Bittu)
62. Hrishikesh
63. Lalit Pandit
64. Sangeeta Pant
65. Santosh Nair
66. Rupesh Kumar Ram
67. Shantanu Sudame
68. J.D. Singh
69. Hannan Khan
70. Julius Packiam
71. Mustafa Sajjad
72. Aditya (Vinod)Gaur
73. Manish Tripathi
74. Sanjoy Bose
75. Vasuda Sharma
76. Shraddha Jain
77. Arjun Suthar
78. Mayur Nagpal
79. Dilip Sen
80. Sanjeet Bharti
81. Anis Ali Sabri
82. Dhananjay Ojha
83. Prashant (Raja) Pandey
84. Nishant Pandey
85. Raj Verma (Yadav)
86. Priyadarshan Pathak

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87.Vishal Shelke
88.Rupsha Mukherjee
89.Paresh Shah
90.Anandji V Shah

1. The Hon. Gen. Secretary Mr. Aashish Rego welcomed all the members and
informed the members present that since the proper quorum as required under
the Constitution of MCAI was not present, the meeting is being postponed by
half an hour at the same venue.

2. After the half an hour period, Mr. Rego took the Dias and invited all Executive
Committee Members to take their seats. He then Informed the House that the
Chairman Shri Anandji V Shah will be joining us little later and instructed that
Meeting should be conducted without him, He also informed the House that
President Mr Anand Shrivastava will not be joining us as he had to go out of
station the last evening only, thus he requested Hon. Vice President Mr Raju
Singh to preside the meet.

2.1 Mr. Raju Singh also welcomed all and express his gratitude. He acknowledged
the importance of the AGM and said this is the Occasion where all of us meet
at least once a year. Mr Raju Singh then handed over the mike to Mr Aashish
Rego to continue the further proceedings.

2.2 Mr Aashish Rego, “Thank you Rajuji. MCAI ka Maksad yehi hai ki hum
Sangeetkaron ki awaaz ko sahi logon tak pahuchayein. Aur Sare Members ka
Sahi haque Unko Dilayein.

2.3 Mr. Aashish Rego requested the house to pay homage to those members who
are not with us today and those who have left us during the past year with a
minute silence. There are some prominent Composers, some Singers, some
Arrangers, Musicains Lyricists and some film & TV world’s Artists. He read

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out some prominent names who have left us, especially from Music fraternity.
He expressed, “Shri Khayyam Sb, Shri Pritesh Mehta, , Shri Sarvesh Sharma, ,
Shri Ramesh Iyer, Shri Sunil Das, Shri Charles Shrinivasan, Shri Arvind
Mayekar and Bollywood Artists Vidhya Sinha ji, Girish Karnadji, Ruma
Guhaji, Dinyar Contractor Sb, Veeru Devganji, Rajkumar Barjatyaji and
Ramesh Bhatkarji aur in sabhi ko hum Maun rahte hue shraddhanjali arpit karte
hain…
(House Observed One Minute Silence)
Mr Rego: Shkriya…
3 Mr Rego, ‘Now we take the first Item of the Agenda which is to approve, accept
and adopt the Minutes of the previous AGM.” He said that the minutes had been
circulated with the Notice of the AGM and not a single query we have received
on this during the given dead line. The Gen. Sec inquired if any member had
anything to discuss on the same.
House Unanimously Passed the Minutes of the last AGM.

3.1 As Proposed by Mr. Jai Khanna and Seconded by Mr. Pramod Kush, it was
Unanimously Resolved that the Minutes of the 2018 AGM be hereby confirmed
and adopted.

4. Item No. 2 of the Agenda was taken up. The Annual Income & Expenditure
Accounts of the Association for the year ended 31st December, 2018 were
circulated amongst all the members. Mr. Rego inquired if any member had
anything to discuss on this Audited Report? He intimated the House that there
are NO querries regarding this, so if any one still wants to raise any question
please come forward. House had nothing to ask.

4.1 House Approved Unanimously. Mr. Amir Hashmi Proposed and Mr. Sudhir
Saxena seconded.

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5. Item No 3, “To receive, consider and adopt the General Secretary’s Annual
Reoprt” on the activities of the Association since the last AGM. Hon. Gen. Sec.
Mr Aashish Rego said, “I am reading here my Report.”

Meetings for the year:
“The Executive Committee of MCAI had several meetings in 2018, some of
them were held on immediate call. we were constrained to hold 6 full fledged
EC Meetings. We kept informed Our Honrary Chairman Mr Anandji V Shah
about these meetings as he was physically unable to attend and requested to
inform him about all these meetings. Following are the Attendance figures at
the committee meetings for the period- 1st Jan 2018 - 31st December 2018 :

Shri Anand Shrivastava 5/6
Shri Aashish Rego 5/6
Shri Tapas Relia. 4/6
Shri Rahul Ranade 3/6
Shri Paresh Shah 3/6
Shri Raju Singh 3/6
Shri Uday Ninjoor 1/6
Shri Justin Yesudas 2/6
Shri Milind Shrivastava 2/6
Shri Sanjeev Kohli 4/6
Shri Rahul B Seth 0/6
Shri Lalit Pandit 4/6
Shri Julius Packiam 4/6
Shri Sargam Jassu 1/6
Shri Ambresh Shroff 2/6
Shri Vipin Mishra 2/6

MEMBERSHIP:
This year was another phenomenal year for us. As usual we were very
aggressive on our membership drive. As usual we have added 104 members
this year. We now have 1676 Members in our MCAI Family and as usual Mr.
Raviraj Pranami, our GM, has shown keen interest on membership drive and
succeeded in achieving the Target. Please give a round of applause for his
efforts.

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DISPUTE SETTLEMENT COMMITTEE:
During 2018 the DSC was busy in handling various Cases. Some cases were
closed after hearings due to lake of documentation from Members. The DSC
was successful in concluding Two out of Four cases. The other two are currently
under process.
1. Mr Ankit Tiwari Vs Jaiprakash (Resolved)
2. Prateek Gandhi Vs T Squier Films (Resolved)
3. Advait Nemlekar Vs Playtime Creations (Under Process)
4. Anand –Milind Vs Meet Bros/ T Series (Under Process)

Many Composers lack the courage to bring matters pertaining to their
exploitation before the committee, which ties our hand and doesn’t permit us
and do what we can to help them. Please do come forward and approach us and
we will do everything in our power to help you.

EVENTS:
The MCAI organised the following events this year:
1. 19th April 2018- MasterSession 1:

Copyrights & Royalties for Composers/Authors
By Achille Forler (Former Managing Director Universal Publishing) with
decades
of experience in the Global Music Industry and in India along with Viveick
Rajagopalan (Percussionist and Composer par excellence).

2. 23rd June 2018-MasterSession 2:
Registration of works and Cue Sheets
By Sherley Singh - Cue Sheets are documents containing a list of an artist's

work
while also recording permissions to use these pieces in different works,

making

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the music monetizable. Thissession will focus on how to create your very
own cue

sheets and registering/protecting your work by our esteemed
speaker Sherley

Singh, founder of Joshua Royalties and a professional with over 8 years of
experience.
3. 14th July 2018-MasterSession 3:
Contracts and Invoices
By Priyanka Khimani, Who is the founder and partner at Anand & Anand
&
Khimani, one of the leading firms in the country when it comes to the
legalities of
copyrights and intellectual property. If you are suffering from
LatePaymentiasis
or Contractophobia, then this is the place you gotta be.
4. 22nd Sept 2018- MasterSession 4:
Scoring for Ads and Feature Films
By Tapas Relia, Who has been working in the ad and film industry for over
two
decades, being responsible for the sounds of major motion pictures like
Nagesh
Kukunoor’s Dhanak and ad campaigns like Kya Aap Closeup Karte
Hai? for
the toothpaste brand Close-Up. Other than this he’s composed for over a
hundred
ads and over two dozen Bollywood films, giving him a firm grasp over the
working of this sector.

We were also the Partner and supporter with “All About Music” the event
happened on 23rd & 24th August 2018, where our representative spoke and brief
people about the contribution of MCAI.

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That’s all with General Secretary’s Report. Thank you all, and wish you a good
time ahead!

Best Regards
Aashish Rego
5.1 House Approved unanimously with Mr. KC Loy proposed it and Mr Vijay
Singh seconded it.
6. Mr Rego- Next point of the agenda, Item No 4- “To appoint the Auditors for
the year ended 31st December 2019”. As house have been given the authority
to the Governing Council to appoint the Auditors every year, it has been
unanimously decided that the same Auditor – M/s. Shital Mutha & Co. be and
are hereby proposed and appointed as Auditors of the Association for the year
ended 31st December 2019. They have served well so far.
6.1 House Approved as Mr Dilip Dutta Proposed and Mr. Amir Hashmi seconded.
7. Mr. Rego then Inform the House that Mr Syed Ahmed sb is here with us and
he’d been co-opted to the executive committee during the last EC meet. Mr.
Rego, “I welcome him and invite him to please join us on stage and please give
him a big hand.”
7.1 Mr Rego, “Syed Ahmed Sb is one of those few people who is a lawyer and a
composer. I would like to request Mr Raju Singh to please welcome Syed sb
with a Buquet.
7.2 Mr Rego, “MCAI will be starting an active legal cell under Syed Ahmed Sb for
those Composers who find difficult to afford expensive Lawyers. Syed sb has
very gracefully concented to head this cell and provide assistance at a highly

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subsidized rates to our members. So if anyone needs any assistance in that we
communicate the details to all our members very soon.
8. Mr Rego, “With this the ordinary business for the year is completed and we
come to the next Item of the Agenda- “To discuss about the facility of
Contract Vetting”
8.1. Mr Rego, “The legal Cell proposes to do Contract Vetting. As you all know the
importance and meanings of Contract in the present scenario. Hamari Industry
mein Lips service dene wale log kafi zyada hain. Jo writing mein hota hai wo
Meaningful hota hai, kahi hui baton se kuch fark nahi padta. To khud ko
safeguard karne ke liye zaroori hai ki humko pata ho ki hum kya sign kar rahe
hain. Aur jo hum Sign Kar rahe hain uske repurcussions kya hain, Uske
Impmlications kya Hain?
8.2 Mr. Rego, “Hum Yeh Jante Hain ki Copyright Lawyers Kaafi Mahange hote
hain aur hota ye hai ki hm sochte hain ki bhai jaane do jo Contract Producer ki
taraf se mila hai wo hum Sign Kar Lete hain aur raise mein hota ye hai ki jo
ghar hum Bhade (Rent) pe deba chahte hain wo bech dete hain. Toh Jo Hamari
Intelectual Property hai hamara Music hai Uski Ghar se tulna Karein to Humko
Pata bhi nahin Hota ki Hamne kya kya de diya, bad mein hum soch rahe hain
ki hum ko ye milega wo milega aur baad mein pata chalta hai ki Humne sara
kuch De Diya aur aage Kuchh Nahin Milne wala. Isiliye Jab aap contract
Vetting ke bare mein sochte hain to ye sochiye ki Sahi lawyer ko contract Na
Dikha kar Ham Kya khone Wale Hain. ye jo kuch rupaye bachane ke liye Ham
Jo Apna Sab Kuchh de dete Hain yah jo baad mein shayad Lakhon rupaye ki
baat ho, toh ye bahut zaruri hai ki Contracts ke liye sahi Lawyer ki advice lein.
Agar Kisi member ko kuch kehna hai is bare mein to kripya wo apni Baat yahan
rakhe.
8.3 Mr. Dilip Dutta, “Ye jo sawal hai kaafi aham sawal hai. jo bhi bacche Yahan
Aate Hain To Unka struggle bahut zyada ho jata hai aur Badi Mushkil Se unhein
Koi kam Milta hai aur bhi Unke sath bahut si mushkilein Hoti Hai To Aise
Mein Yadi agar Producer ke hisab se sign nahin kiya to chaar doosre Baithe

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Hain Usi kam ko hathiyane ke liye. To haath aaya kaam use chhoot jata hai.
Aur bhi jo naye naye aate hain is shahar mein, hum sab bhi aaye hain, toh jo hai
use pehle to kaam milta nahi aur milta hai to Contract ka knowledge na hone se
aur kisi bhi tarike se ek Aaya Hua kam uske haath se chala jata hai. usse pehle
ki pareshaniyan hotee hain naye shahar mein aana aura ate hi bahut sari
pareshaniyon ka saamna karna. Humne dekha hai ki jo Naye bechare bacche
Aate Hain Unhein sabse pahle to Yahan per Rahane ki dikkat phir Kisi tarike
se kam mila toh contract ko Lekar dikkatein. Use pehle sangeet seekhne ki
mashakkat, sangeet ki Shiksha hi bahut kathin ho gai hai aaj ke Zamane mein.
Mumbai mein aap dekhiye zyada Karke log Bahar Se Aaye Hai aur jo log Aaye
Hain unhone Khud apni mehnat ke bad Apne apne Dam per Khade hue hain to
pehle kaam ke sign hone ki badi Khushi hoti hai ki bhai chalo Kuchh kam Mila
aur use Samay Ham yah Dekhte rahe hai kya usmein hidden points kya hain,
Producer kya likha raha hai Humse, ye kuch points new comer kw liye bade
mushkil bhare hote hain, Wo ye man ke chalta hai ki Sab sahi hai aur bad mein
Usse Pata Chalta Hai Ki yah sari cheezeien maine free mein de di. jaise maan
Leejiye ki aapane jo rights hain wo sab likhwa liye hain to phir usmein kaise
paise Milana chahie yah pata bhi nahin Hota Hai. Isliye MCAI mein ek Aisa
cell ho jo in sab baton ki dekh rekh kare toh Bahut hi bhla hoga sabhi ka. bus
Itna hi Mujhe Kahana hai.

8.4 Mr Amir Kashmi, “Main Chhattisgarh se hun sangeet Se Juda Hua Hoon Apne
production Ka Bhi Mera Kaam hai hai lekin mein music bhi karta hun aapko
batana Chahunga Ki Maine 1000 Se zyada workshops ki hain, awareness create
karne ke liye. Main in workshop ke liye, Odisha, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra,
Madhya Pradesh har jagah gaya hoon aur Main manta hun ki MCAI se judne
ke baad mujhe sangeet ka kaafi gyan badha hai. Iske liye main MCAI ke
General Manager jo hain unka bahut shukraguzar hoon. we badhiya tarike se
Ham Sabko samjhate Hain main Pehli Baar Aaya Tha tab bataya ki Kaise
MCAI composer ke liye kam karta hai aur Main vakai Mein sirf Jankari nikalne
ke liye aaya tha Aur Main Yahan Ka member ban gaya aur Aaj Bhi apne aap
par bahut Fakhra mahsus karta hun member hone par. Mujhe bhi pata hai ki

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hamare pass Agar utna fund Hota Nahin hai, lekin Main chahta hoon ki puree
country ke sare States mein nahin to kuch states mein MCAI bhi awareness
phailane ka kaam kare, taki wahan ke new comers ko in sab baton ka gyan ho
aur we apne haque ke bare mein jaan sakein aur isse un logon ko bahut bahut
support mil Jayega .
Mr Aashish Rego, “Aapka sujhav bahut Achcha hai hamara bhi maqsad yahi
hai ki Ham Bharat ke har Kone Tak pahunche lekin main Chahunga ke sare
member jo hain iss abhiyan mein judkar aage aayein kyonki hum jo yahan board
par hain wo 16 hi hain, Lekin Hamare Hath bahut simit hain aur agar aap sab
Log Bhi aage aakar Hamari sahayata kar sakein toh ham definitely is qadam ko
Aage Badha kar un areas Tak pahunchne ki Koshish Karenge. Aap apne apne
area Mein vyavastha Kariye To Ham Apne chairman Sahab ko aur Hamari
commity ke Kuchh members ko Lekar a sakte hain aur vakai ye Achcha sujhav
hai.
Mr Amir Hashmi, “Yadi Chhatisgarh se shuruaat karte hain to Raipur mein
main saari vyavastha karne ke liye bhi Taiyaar hoon. Raipur mein Mera space
bhi hai aur yadi aap Private Land Chahte hain toh Main Apna Space dene ko
bhi raazi hoon.”
8.5 Mr Raju Singh, “Yeh jo Workshops ki baat kar rahe hain, this is need of the
hours. Hamari EC Meeting mein bhi yehi baat ho chuki hai. E need to start from
all four different zones. Desh ke Charon bhaagon ko kaise cover karein ye
hamne discuss kiya hai. Definatelly there is scopr in it and need as well to make
our artists aware.”
9. Mr Pramodkumar Kush, “Kya MCAI koi Standard Contract taiyar nahin kar
sakta?”
9.1 Mr Aashish Rego, “MCAI ke pass standard Contracts already hain website per
available hain. Dikkat ye hai ki Producers apne Contracts prfer karte hain aur
99 % jo hamare members hain wo MCAI ke contracts ke sath jate bhi hain toh
Producer apna Contract samne rakh dete hain. Kuch points hote hain jo
Standard Agreement mein differ karte hain lekin alag alag producers ke

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Contracts ko Vett karna MCAI ke liye possible nahin hai. Isiliye Sahi Legal
Advice ki Zaroorat hai.”
10. Mr. Avinash Pathak, “Ek Gaana maine kiya tha kisi Film ke liye, without
Agreement. Ab na toh wo film ban paayi na wo gana release hua. Producer keh
raha hai ki wo Gaane ko single Release ke roop mein shoot karega, jo ki main
nahi chahta.”
10.1 Mr Aashish Rego, “Aap ne Agreement nahi kiya hai to gaana aapka hua.
Copyright act mein bhi ye clause hai, shayad teen saal ki limitations hain.”
10.2 Mr Lalit Pandit, “Aap ek Notice bhej deejiye producer ko ki ya to aap film mein
leejiye, nahi to gaane ko dobara use karne ke liye aap ke pass rights hain.”
10.3 Mr. Rego, “In sabke liye MCAI ka ek Dispute settlement cell hai, aap chahein
toh wahan complaint kar sakte hain. Aapko Paisa bhi nahi dena hoga aur aapka
kaam ho jayega.”
11. Mr KC Loy, “I want to ask about new era of producers, Jo youTube ya Digital
media Mein hain. These Producers of Advertisement and commercials, yeh log
digital ka wasta dekar kam paise Mein kam Karvate hain. Kehte hain digital
Mein Hai yah or zyada commercial scope nahin hai, toh iska Koi hal (Solution)
hai Association ke pass?
11.1 Mr Tapas Relia, “These are just excuses by producers, ye Bahane hain. Agar
Digital medium Nahin Hota toh kisi aur bahane se kaam karvate kehte ghar ka
production hai, ya social cause ke liye hai ya Charity ke liye, I think yeh sab
tarike Hain paise kam karvane ke. Isko Association ki taraf se Kuchh nahin kiya
Ja sakta, lekin personal negotiation ke sath apas mein mamle ko suljhaya ja
sakta hai. Kyonki ek Baat toh tay hai ki Yadi Digital Media ke liye kaam kar
rahe hain toh mehnat ya efforts ya time kam lagta hai, Aisa toh nahin hai?
Mehnat aur Time toh utna hi dena hota hai. Time toh Utna hi lagega, kyonki
Music toh Music hi hai at the end of the day. You can always say that, you are
saying that is is for Digital Medium, but jab aap contrac karvate ho toh poore
Rights le lete ho!!toh kal yadi aap iski Film bhi release karein toh aapko koi
Rok nahi Raha hai ya Television pe Telecast Karein. So there is always an

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argument unless until they specifically enter into an agreement which is
stricktly for a perticuler WEBSITE, then negotiations are on. But at the end it
is between the Composer & the Producer, to discuss and arrive at a figure.
11.2 Mr. KC Loy: So this is the general thing happening to all of you guys?
11.3 Mr. Tapas Relia: I am saying that this is happening under any cercumstanse.
Agar Digital Medium nahi hota toh kisi aur bahane se kam mein kaam karavate!
Inka toh Kaam hi yahi hai ki paisa kam do. But just because Digital medium ko
ye utna weightage nahi dete, inko lagta hai ki licence mil jayega ki bhai! Digital
medium hai, ismein kahaan kamaayee hogi, toh tum bhi kam mein kaam karo
hum bhi kam mein kaam kar rahe hain. Par baat ye hai ki Unke DoP, Directors,
Unke Actors, Unka Post (Production) jake Bade Bade studios mein kaam
karenge, par end mein aa kar Composer ko kahenge ki kam mein kaam karo.
Toh agar wo un logon ko full payment kar sakte hain toh hamein kyon nahi? In
the end its very philosophical answer, “You have to stand your ground”
Aap keh sakte hain ki digital medium ke liye kam Kare to mehnat kam kar rahe
hain Aisa To Hai Nahin Waqt bhi utna hi dena pad raha hai. “Meri argument
toh yehi hoti hai is par ya Aap kahiye ki kya chaar ghante time doonga chalega?
12. Mr. Hero Jagmalani” I am Hero Jagmalani from Akola. Mera question hai ki
jab aapko kaafi work aa gaya hai ya contracts aa gaye hain, to aap apne
Diamonds kaise select karte ho?
“Jaise Main Kahoon kya aapke pass 3 Din Hai 20 gane banane ke liye to Fir
aap kis tarike se use karte hain” toh kya aap kar paate Hain yah kis tarike se ek
gane banate hain aap ya Kisi doosre new composer ki services lete hain aap aisa
hota hai kya aapki kya step Hoti Hai yah mujhe pata karna hai?
12.1 Mr. Tapas Relia: Yeh bahut creative question hai aur yah iske liye workshop
Hogi.
12.2 Mr. Ashish Rego: Main samajh raha hun ki aapke pass 20 gane Hain 3 Din
Mein composed karna hai to aap Hamein hire keejiye, ham ye karke denge
(laugh).

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Mujhe apne 25 saal ke career mein aisa mauka Nahi Mila ki 3 din me mujhe 20
Gaane compose karne mile ho. Mere khyal se aapka sawal yeh hai ki jab kaam
zyaada ho jaata hai toh hum Handle kaise karte hain.
12.3 Mr. Tapas Relia: Dekhiye jab woh itni unresoanable demand kar rahe hain ki 3
din mein 20 songs, toh aap teen din ki jagah baton mein hi saat din kheech do.
Sab Aise hi kaam karte hain. Is Sawal ka seedha sa koi Jawab Nahi hai. Aisi
koi first Step nahi ha jo hum Uthayein. Aap kahiye ki badget kya hai us hisab
se chaar-paanch Composer ko Hire karo baat khatm ho gayi!!
12.4 Mr Aashish Rego: Aap Apna Bank Taiyar rakhiye. Pehle se prepare Rahiye.
100 ya 200 Gaanon Ka Bank Taiyaar Rakhiye. Apne Gaane Suna Deejiye aur
baat khatm ho Gayi. Unko 20 Pasand Aaye toh Bahut Badi Baat Hai, aaj Kal Ej
Film Mein Chhah Composers Hote hain.
13. Mr. Vijay Singh: I am Vijay Singh, from Raipur, Chhattisgarh. Mera jo
experience hai woh 2016 ke pahle ka hai. Jab Maine MCAI ki Membership
Nahin Lee thi. Main Raipur se hi Us Samay kam kar raha tha. Mera Experience
kaafi bura raha. Internet ke through hi ek Producer se connect hua. Koi Contract
Vagairah Nahin Hua. Producer Pehle Dhun Pasand Karta hai, Mehnat Karte
hain aur Bharose par Blank Tracks de diye. Phir woh Reject Kar Deta
hai…Vagairah Vagairah…to Jaisa Ki MCAI mein Legal Cell ab aa gaya hai to
Isse Kaafi sahooliyat Rahegi Sabhee Ko.
(House Applauds)
13.1 Mr. Raju Singh: Main Yeh Kehna Chahta Hoon ki Jitna Zyada aap email par
Communication rakhein Utna Hi Behtar hai.
14. Mr Pawan Bhatiya: Main Pawan Bhatiya Indore Se. Main Janana Chahata hoon
ki koi bhi Composition ko jab alag-alag Languages ke liye use kiya jata hai toh
uske liye Licence fee ka pravdhan hai, ye ek option de sakte hain billing karte
samay. Lekin yadi kisi work ko ek saall se zyada ho gaya ab wo different
language mein mujhse hi karvana chahte hain lekin mujhe alag se ya extra
payment karna nahin chahte.

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14.1 Mr. Tapas Relia: Dekhiye Jab Aapne Hindi mein koi Jingle Kiya toh Ek
Contract Sign Kiya, ab us Contract mein aapne kya kya sign kiya ye bahut
mayne rakhta hai, Uske basis par ye decide hoga ki aapko Licencing ka Paisa
Mile ya na Mile. Agar Aapne sab Rights de diye hain toh phir wo Legally
Entitled to use your Composition in different languages. Par aap apni Physical
Service ke liye Billing Kar Sakte hain. Yado Maine Jingle ki hai aur Hindi kea
lava anya Languages ke sare Rights usko De Diye hain Jaise Adaptation,
Reproduction, commercial Exploitation or whatever …sabkuch maine di diye
hain perpetuity ke liye toh phir main unse Licencing fee nahin maang sakta
hoon. Jo Royalty Aayegi wo IPRS se mujhe aayegi, wo alag baat hai. Lekin ek
saal baad aakar wo mujhse kehte hain ki mujhe chhah languages mein isse karna
hai toh main unse kahoonga ki mere supervision Charges itne hain, App mera
waqt le rahe ho. Aapko Additional Paisa Nahin dena hai to, ok but, phir main
na studio aaoonga, na coordinate karoona, na synchronise karoonga. Aap yadi
chahte ho ki main Studio Aakar execute karoon, aur Apna waqt doon, Then Pay
me my supervision fees, Aap per language ke hisaab se le leejiye. Usko
Licencing fee nahin kahenge. Aur yadi aapne sirf Invoice raise kiya hai, Na koi
Contrac, na koi NoC etc, toh phir sare rights aapke hue. “Rights belong to you
only. You have only raised the job fee. That doesn’t explicitly say that you have
given the licence. You are only billing them for your physical efforts inside the
studio. So I will say that despite sign off every thing, you can charge for
Supervision.”

14.2 Mr Aashish Rego: aap Jab bhi Contract Sign Karte hain toh ye dhyan rakhein
ki aap yeh mention karein ki additional is par job hi banana hai wo hamare
through hi banana hoga. Additional fee to be negotiable. Yedi ye ek clause bhi
aap daal dete hain to aap khud ko safe guard kar lete hain.

15. Mr. Prateek Panchal, “If two composers are there on one project, one is
composing and other is doing the Background Scor and if the Background
Scorer uses the themes from the song so do we charge extra for that or what one
should do?

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15.1 Mr Raju Singh: Iske liye ek system hai Cue-Sheets. Ye aapko Royalty ke liye
madad karegi aur aap apna work define kar sakte hain. Project ke itne hisse
mein mera work use hua… “We are organizing Workshops for that…for Cue-
Sheets…”

16. Mr. Balaji: My concern is to register a song with MCAI because there is a
copyright board in Delhi where we can register our unreleased songs but their
procedure is lengthy and time consuming. So is it sufficient to register our song
with MCAI?

16.1 Mr. Aashish Rego: What you are registering on MCAI website is just a time
stamping. With that you are making a note that this song was composed on such
and such date and time stamping then and what you are doing at Copyright
Office is basically you are registering it.

16.2 Mr. Balaji: So its ok if I register the tune with MCAI only?
16.3 Mr. Raju Singh: it’s a proof that you have composed a tune and registered with

your association.
16.4 Mr. Tapas Relia: “Basically what is your purpose.” If your purpose is to

safeguard your tune that it is yours, then register it with MCAI. If you want to
go further and want to get proper copyright thing then you can go to register
with the Copyright Office. It might protect you further but this is sufficient for
most of us, because at the end of the day we just want to proove that I have
made this tune before. Email it to yourself, register it with MCAI all of it works
because it gives us a timestamp. And if you are not in a hurrey we encourage
you to copyright it! But you can chalange anybody if it is registerd with MCAI.
17. Mr. Aashish Rego: So shall we move to the next Item on the Agenda? This is
to discuss, approve and adopt the Procedures and Levies and Amnesty scheme
as recommended by the Managing Committee.
17.1 I must say that there are members who have donated their remaining advance
after clearing all the Levies and Annual Subscriptions of 2018. Here we propose
this Amnesty Scheme for various amounts which are pending:

• Below One Lac: 25%

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• Above One Lac: 35%
This is for members who are paying their dues withing 3 months from now.

• Other Slabs are 15% & 10%
For those who pay after 3 months. So is there any questions for this scheme?
17.2 House approves unanimously. Proposed by Mr Jai Khanna & Seconded by Mr
Pramod Kush
18. Mr. Aashish Rego: You know we still have pending bills to be paid to the
Lawyers. After years of fighting. Lawyers have been very patient and kind, not
to presurise us, but there are ongoing cases to safeguard our rights. Even after
the Copyright amendment Bill, the broadcasters and producers still want tto
over rule or chanange the Copyright Act. So every stage hamko choukanna
rehna padta hai ki kahan case laga hua hai, kaha wo koshish kar rahe hain, ki
wahan pe jakar hum Composer and Author ke Rights safe kar lein. Kafi Jagah
pe humko Intervention bhi karni padti hai aur kafi jagah humko Defend Karna
Padta hai aur Kafi Jagah hamko Case File bhi Karne padte hain, toh Zahir hai
humein abhi aur Funds Ki Zaroorat hai.
Ab Main Un members ke Naam batana chahoonga jinhone Advance payment
di hain Levies Bhari hain aur baad mein Apna remaining Advance Association
ko Donate kar diya hai. Ye Naam Hain:-

1. Mr Abhishek Arora
2. Mr. Justin Yesudas
3. Mr. Uday Ninjoor
4. Mr. Purvagna Patel
5. Mr. Rupert Fernandez
6. Mr. Sanjeev Wadhwani
7. Mr. Vipin Mishra

18.1 Main Phir Kehna Chahoonga ki Inhone Advance Levies Bharee aur Remaining
Part of Advance ye sabhi Association ko Donate Kar Rahe hain.

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Please give them a round of applause.

19. Mr Rego, “Now we have such members who are very regular, prompt and
enthusiastic for paying their Levies and they do it on time, every time. We
would like to honour the commitment of such members today.”

19.1 Mr. Rego, “I request Lalitji (Pandit) to please come forward and falicitate them.
We have already falicitated few members earlier and This year our First such
member is also the very senior member of the Industry who has just won the
Filmfare award for his amazing Background Score (Andhadhun), Mr Daniel
George.”
We’d like to acknowledge his sincerety with a small memento.
(Mr Lalit Pandit Falicitate Mr George by a Buquet & a Palque)
(A Big Applause and atanding ovation by House for Mr Daniel George)
Mr. Aashish Rego: Thank You Mr George, we appreciate your commitement.

19.2 Mr Rego-“Our Anouther Member is Mr. Vinay Kapadia. I would again request
our Senior Member Mr Lalit Pandit to honoured Mr Vinay Kapadia with Plaque
& Buquet..
Mr Rego-“Mr Vinay Kapadia, from TV Category.”

19.3 Mr Prateek Panchal came forward and informed the House that Mr Vinay
Kapadia could not make it today, so he will be receiving the Plaque on Mr
Vinay’s behalf and hand it over to him later. Mr Lalit Pandit handed over the
Plaque to Mr Prateek Panchal..
(A Big Applause and atanding ovation by House for Mr Vinay Kapadia)

20. Mr. Aashish Rego: Next item on the agenda is to discuss on web series or video
on demand and contract between Programmers and composers. So does
anybody have any observation on these two things because as everybody knows
web series is the in thing right now as the industry is transitioning between TV
and films on one side, to a web series which has formed an in between kind of

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domain. Lot many Film artists and technitians are now working in web series
also. “Toh Web series apna ek alag astitv bana chukka hai iss Industry mein.”
Toh Webseries ko lekar agar kisi ko kuch Clarifications hain ya problems hain
ya questions hain ya doubts hain ya kuch kehna hai to wo is forum mein Darsha
sakte hain.
20.1 Mr Aashish, “Anybody?” Seeing no response Mr Aashish said, “Okay, I think
everybody is quite sorted with web series.
20.2 Mr Hero, “Actually I don’t know what Web Series is?
20.3 Mr Aashish, “Okay, you want a definition of web series. Okay, so web series is
a content, which is specially created for a priority broadcasts on the digital
medium. Which means TV ke pehle yaki Filmon me us Content ko dikhaya
nahin Jayega. Its primary purpose is to be shown on the internet or the digital
media. Such OTT Plateforms are out there. Jesse Netflix hai, Hotstar Hey,
AltBalajee Hai, Amazon Prime Hai, so so many such OTT Provides are there.
and they only provid digital content and These days music work has been
extended due to these web Serieses and it has become a huge Industry. New
people are coming into work in Web Series. So that’s “Web Series.”
20.4 Second thing is a contract between programmers and composers and I like
Rajuji to say something on this that what is the need for contract within
programmers?
20.5 Mr. Raju Singh, “I think these days Programmers are playing very very
important role in different ways for a composer. Earlier and even now there was
a separate person as an arranger, conductor, different sections. “Ab kya ho raha
hai ki electronics Ho Gaya. Programming Ho gayi. So music producer, In
practically, is playing a lot of roles. And we also actually chose Programmers
for duing a song and dependent upon him. So I have to say that there has to be
a contractual thing between a Composer and a Programmer, because you work
with our Programmers and like you have to trust the person as your song is
lying with him. You have to ensure that the elements of your created songs will
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for you, whatever VSTs or your samples which are being used, so who will take
the responcibility? Because eventualy Music Composer’s Name is at stake. I
think we should discuss on this and we must have workshops also as to how to
take care of these things being a music producer or being a music composer.
These are few things then at the other end, how much is the compositional
participation from the musical producer. Eventually music composers
creat”Tune”, tune the composition of the royalty and everything, everything
else besides to make the melody like they could just do it exactly.
20.6 Mr. Lalit Pandit, “See, the role of the Programmer is to sequencing the song.
Some Composers do the entire work on his own and leave the proframming part
for the programmer while some composers are dependent totally on
programmers right from the conceptulise of a song. So depends upon different
composers and their style. So all important part is that how much contribution
a Composer gives to finalise the tune? How much preplanned efforts they put
on their song? So, surely you have to trust on your programmer. A
programmer’s Input is a major part in a song. A good programmer can beautify
your song and take to to the next level. So as I am listening to you all, I feel that
new avanues are there and new problems are there due to these. Since the time
Digital Media exist, Complications have been increased. So Many gaps and
loops are there and ofcourse advantages are there. I'm sure the committee will
think of how to revert to your and find ways to protect our rights of sound
composition and everything. Basically lot many things are dependent on ethics.
You keep your moral high. Stand on your principals and let new comers come.
Work honestly and let other to work. If we are united, no one can take advantage
of it. As you know, “ek film mein 5-6 Music Directors Kaam kar rahe hain, yeh
hamari galati hai. Aap mat kariye aisa kaam, lekin newcomers ke liye kisi Film
ka ek gaana milna bhi achievement hai. So think seriously and decide which
way you want to go?”
20.7 Mr. Raju Singh, “We are lucky to have such a senior who sets an example for
others.”

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(House Applauses)

20.8 Mr. Aashish Rego, “So main “Mudda” is actually contract between
programmers and Composers. “Aaj ki Taareekh mein soundlibraries kaffee
hain, sound samples kaffee hain and these programmers do work for multiple
composers. So important part is that where do we draw lines and where comes
the legal liabilities, to know this is very important. When we sign a programmer,
we think means producers think that they have purchased a sound library and
they can exploit in whatever manner. Ab Yeh Zyadatar Pata Nahin Hota hai ki
Jo Content Sound Library mein Mil Raha hai wo Legally allowd for use hai?
Agar wo Nahin Hai to liable Aap ho jayenge kyonki Gaane pe naam aapka hai.
Isliye, To indemnify all of us from such things, a right contract between
Composer and a Programmer is very necessary. Because we don’t know who
has purchased the sound libraries and who has opted for the pirated version. Jo
Sample Use hote hain Unke bare mein jankari nahin hoti, kayi Samples hote
hain jo ek Area Tak Seemit hain. Aap dekhenge ki Legal Sound Libraries mein
likha hota hai ki, “for use only in the USA. Any other use licence fees would
have to be negotiated.” Ye bade chhote aksharon mein likha hota hai. Aksar
Log Sirf Ye Dekhte hai ki Royalty Free Music. Aur Jab Producers ya Unke
Programmers Aise Content Download Karke Use Karte hain, toh we become
liable as a Composer for prosecution. Aise Bahut baar hades hue hain aur
hamari jankari mein hai ye sab jismein Kuch Composers Badnaam bhi ho gaye
hain. Kyonki Unko Nahin Pata tha ki Unke Assistants ya Programmers ya
Producers ne jo Samples use kiye the, Wo authorized Nahin The. Doosari Baat,
jab Ek producer Multiple Composers ke sath kaam karta hai to us par Load
Zyada hota hai aur load zyada hone se Composition ki jo Lines hain wo blur ho
jati hain aur kabhi kabhar ek composer ka music doosre jaisa sound karne lagta
hai, toh yahan bhi humko Choukanna rehna padega. Contract mein ye Clauses
hone chahiye ki aapne jo mere liye kaam kiya usko doosari jagah use nahin kar
sakte hain aur waise sound nahin hona chahiye. Isilye yeh point Agenda mein
rakha gaya, kyonki ye baatein ho gayi hain aur ho rahi hain aur isse choukanna
rahna chahiye. Is point par koyi question Pleas

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20.9 Mr. Pramod Kush: Ismein Royalty wala point bhi judna chahiye.
21. Mr. Mohit Pathak: Suppose I have not kept the backup and gave away every

thing to the producers and after 3 years if they want the same by saying that
they have removed the files, what to do?
21.1 Mr Tapas Relia: I think, you need to backup for whatever given, forever.
Because you never know what will crop up tomorrow. It keeps coming back.
After 10 year, 15 year, “aata hi rehta hai yeh toh. There is absolutely know way
for you to indemnify yourself. Once you delete your original files, it will come
on to you if you don’t have backups.
21.2 Mr Mohit Pathak: Is there any prising or budget for Web Series?
21.3 Mr. Aashish Rego: See even for TV, we have only recommended rate. There is
no rule as such that you need to charge this much or you have to charge this
much. In Web Series, we have not devepoled any recommended rate so far
because we have OTT like TVF on one side and Netflix on other side, you can’t
gauge both of them with the same yardstick. So it depends upon each of the
Composers as to what they feel about their work is worth or their time is worth.
So, we have not created any recommended rate for Web Series.
22. Ms Vasuda Sharma, “I'm Vasuda Sharma. And I'm an indie singer, songwriter,
composer. And I do make my own songs sometimes. A lot of production
houses, maybe movies and stuff, they ask you for scratches, okay, songs that I
have created or written. But I have not necessarily registered because they
would they would be either a one minuter or just an idea, which is like,
elaborated and stuff, but not really. And I wanted to know if it's an email
interaction where I'm sending them songs, and they come back to me with, I
don't know what that thing is called, where they ask you to sign some kind of
agreement that if your song tomorrow is chosen, blah, blah, blah, whatever, if
it's, if we do something without you being involved in it, but some kind of sound
similar to song that you had done. Is that something that I should be very careful
about before signing an agreement like that? Also, one more thing, the minute
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is that also a proof of me being the I mean, owning the copyrights of the song?
Is that proof enough if I haven't registered the songs?
22.1 Mr Rego, “Okay, two parts to your question. The first part, when you get a
contract like that itself sounds very suspicious. Why would somebody ask you
to sign a contract saying that if there's some other word, which sounds similar
to you're willing to release by that organisation, then they wouldn't be liable
unless you plan to plagiarise your work?
22.2 Ms Vasuda, “It's just one of the 10th, 100 or whatever points written. It's just
one of those. And that kind of struck me and I wasn't sure….
22.3 Mr. Rego, “There are a lot of people out there who tend to just include such
points in the contrast, you need to be very careful about them. That's why you
need contract Vetting. and former legally qualified person, as we announced
earlier, we're setting up a legal sale, which Syed Sb is going to be taking charge
of so and we also have recommended lawyers which are also there, which if
you can afford them, you can they get discounted rates to MCI. So all in all,
you can be very informed about what contracts you're signing and what clauses
should be there in those contracts.
“Coming to the second part of your question, again, MCI will also be circulating
an email format, by which when you're sending your compositions to
somebody, you need to include certain key words in that which automatically
will state that I am the owner of copyright, and the composer, original composer
of this piece of work, and any unauthorised public performance or usage of this
will be liable for prosecution. So if you include these aspects, in your emails,
then automatically that will safeguard your rights and declare you as a copyright
one.
22.4 Ms Vasuda, “Thank you. Thank you so much.”
23. Mr. Mayur Jumani: “I have a question, generic question regarding producer and
composer the difference. That's there. So where do we draw the line where the
composers work ends? And the producer starts? So for example, nowadays,
what's happening? At least what I've noticed. So at least what I've noticed

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nowadays is that a lot of answers will come to producers, tell them to make the
world beating everything, and then they'll see it, they'll be like, “Apna Awaaz
Daal Doonga Main” and I faced that myself, to create the whole thing I do, I'm
doing the composition myself. But then he says, Okay, I'll give an example of
a song, I don't know how this song is created, it is a funny example. But the
song, “Badtameez Dil” let's say, Usme jo Horn section hai, Like “Par pup para
para... Like, that's actually the main composition. But then a lot of times, what
I do is I create those things, and I send it to them. And then they'll put those
other lines like, whatever, the verse is..I mean just a straight line. Right? So in
this case, who is the composer and who is the producer?
23.1 Mr. Tapas Relia: See, first of all, to just to know so conveniently, to give a
statement that that's the main part of the song in the same order, it is just because
it's, it doesn't speak good on your part, because you would just de-crediting
someone. But here's, here's where the difference you just asked where where to
draw the line. So I'm just explaining to you that when you produce something
your viewer agreed to work with that composer. And by your own way, you're
giving your inputs in that song. Yeah. So it is your own will, whether you want
to give that song eventually to the composer or not. You're doing it by your own
will and you're giving your input by or until now You very well know that he's
the composer you very well knew it before you started working with him that
in the end is according to you just got to put his voice. So you're aware of this
anyway. So it's a choice that you have to make. And it's not something that can
be laid down as a rule. It's it's all up very particular in you tell the composer,
you tell the composer that I will do what you want me to do. You tell me what
is the baseline, you tell me what chord progressions you tell me what
instruments you tell me how to record them at..
23.2 Mr Mayur, “At the same time I receive this type of work a lot, you make the
whole beat, and then undo it. So..
23.3 Mr. Tapas Relia, “Then you be clear with them, nobody's stopping you from
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I'm only share composer credits. It's see again, the ball is in your court, you're
afraid of losing work, but at the same time you want somebody to conveniently
disagree with your terms. So you have to take a little bit of a risk. Or if you
think you are talented enough, where the composer is not going to go anywhere,
then you need to stand your ground and tell them that if you want me to make
the whole songs, according to my own creativity, and you want my inputs, then
you need to share composer credits, or you pay pay up so much more whatever.
23.4 Mr. Aashish Rego: “The thing is that this is a commercial negotiation. This
needs to be done before the song started. Not after the song has ended. So clarity
in what work you are going to do. And what you are demanding in view of that
work is very important in terms of monies which you're going to charge and
credits. What do you want? Do you want credits as a music producer, you want
credits as a music Co-composer? because the other person has to be aware of
what needs to shut out. If he wants to work with you, then it's his choice at that
point in time when he wants to continue work with you or go to somebody else.
clarity, lack of clarity before signing a deal. It could be between composer and
producer and music producer or composer and film producer. We need to be
very clear as to what our commercial points are and what our credits are going
to be. So that disputes don't happen later. That's why contracts are made. That's
again an important aspect in having a contract between a composer and a music
producer or programme. Yeah, clarity.
23.5 Mr. Tapas Relia: Also, what you have been added is royalties are based and the
song I mean, a composers credit is given based only on the melody. A beat is
never going to generate royalties. Yeah. So if that that is a very straightforward
answer to your question about where does one draw the line. So if he's making
the melodies the composer no matter how hard you work on it, unless and until
you will make things very clear with him.
23.6 Mr. Vipin Mishra: So in a nutshell, to answer your question, of where to draw
the line. The melody is the composition. Everything that happens around the
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call them all those adjectives and they will hold true. Yeah. Now as a music
producer, how far you go is your choice. It wasn't a choice between your
relationship with the composer and it's also the choice that you make of how
much you want to give to the tune. So it is a grey area as far as the relationship
is concerned, but it's a very clear cut area as far as the inputs are concerned.
23.7 Mr. Tapas Relia: See this is a never ending thing where lines just keep getting
blurred Where's composer becoming lyricist, lyricist or becoming singer,
singers are becoming composers, so it's it's each to his own and you and you
need to stand your ground it's nobody else's drawing the line you want to draw
the line yourself
24. Mr. Amir Hashmi: “Kya Hamara Khud ka Server Nahi Hona Chahiye?
Disclaimer hona chahiye. Jo Har Tune par wo Disclaimer automatically apply
ho jayega. It may be very expencive suggestion to you, but it can be very
fruitful.
24.1 Mr. Aashish Rego: “Thank you. Thank you for your suggestion. What I believe
is we firstly need to be very careful about the terminologies that we use. Ek baat
toh Clear kar doon ki hum jo hain ‘YouTube’ ya ‘Soundcloud’ per gaane ko
Copyright Karte hain, aisa kuch bhi nahi hai. Please iss Galatgehmi mein mat
rahiye. ‘YouTube’ ya ‘Soundcloud’ pe koi bhi gaane Copyright Nahin hote.
Hum sirf Timestamp Karten hai. “we only timestamps the song”. You are just
vreating a time stamp ki yeh gaana aapne iss taareekh ko upload kiya hai. Aur
wo proof hai ki iske baad mein kisi ne same waisa gaana banaya to aap prove
kar sakein ki mera pehla hai. The other way to do the same is, emailing the song
to yourself! Pehle solution ye tha ki hum post se bhejte the. Aaj hamare paas
email hai. Aap khud ko Email Kar ke rakh sakte hain. Aur yadi aapka
soundcloud account delete ho gaya toh aapke paas email toh rahega!!ye bhi ek
solution hai.”
24.2 Mr. Vijay Singh: I have an experience actually it is very what I do, I was not a
member. So for the timestamp what I do for my own records also that I make
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me I'm programming some in making I put something and upload it in YouTube
because I found it to be no more safer Google is more and more casual so i i
was using YouTube for a timestamp. So what happened was that as I progressed
I mean I add some meat or I make some changes or some whatever I do in the
conclusion for the evolution uploading so what happened after 12-13 stages he
told me I got a copyright notice, notice from YouTube saying that this is copied
from this one so and it showed some links also of from after 12 seconds it is
copied, it was my own conversion but when I click that link it goes something
else. So when I didn't find so there was an option to file a dispute. So in the
dispute when I was going to find there was a warning that if your claim is
wrong, then your account will be deleted or suspended or whatever so it was
scary because you know, I have been doing it in YouTube everything and
suddenly they will delete everything the timestamp was there on the YouTube
What if they delete it. so it was scary, but I filed it and then there is a third
party which generates ad revenue ad revenue and name is Adrev. So I reported
to adrev also, they wanted the licence number so I wrote clearly that is I'm using
YouTube for timestamp It is my personal work It is my personal record I've not
shared with anybody it is a private upload so there is no question of licence
taking licence from anybody so and I send the link also for that particular so
they're withdrawn, but it scared me. You know they take the one sided issue so
what if they did it?
24.3 Mr. Raju Singh, “Ismein Ek Hi positive baat yeh hai ki aapke sath jo bhi bura
hua hai wo MCAI ka member banana se pehle….
(Laughters)
25. Mr Hero, “Sir is there any particular site where we can match our work? Like
kya yehi tune pehle kabhi kisi ne banayi hai?
25.1 Mr. Rego, “Aapko kya lena-dena ki kisi ne wo tune pehle banayi ya nahin? Aap
ne tune banayi aur use Register kar diya..toh phir aap surakshit ho!
25.2 Mr. Tapas Relia, “Dekhiye sabse pehle to aisi kkoi site hai nahin. It is not
possible. Itne Daubt mein mat raho! Second guessing or if you have made it

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You made it and the chances of your song being something similar to something
which was created a few years ago is close to impossible. Coincidentally do-
chaar notes same ho sakti hai. Aise hota toh aaj tak originality bachti hi nahi.
26. Mr. Aashish Rego: Okay, so in this to a very important item on the agenda is at
one point in time, we have only one lady member in our association. But I'm
very happy today that we have so many ladies who are Music Composers and
part of this association,
(Big Applause from House)
26.1 I'd like to welcome all of them to this association. And we've decided it's very
important for us to have a women cell in the MCAI. So we would like to invite
our lady composers, at least three of them to be a part of MCAI and be involved
in the functioning of the executive committee committee. So I'd like at least
three ladies to volunteer to be a part of this special woman Cell.
Could you come forward, please, so that we tackle problems which are
specifically women centric? Yeah.
1. Ms Sangeeta Pant
2. Ms. Anahita Shetty
3. Ms. Hemangi Mahadik
So we have Sangeeta, Hemangi & Anahita and now our women cell is
complete.
We would like to falicitate all of three.
Board Falicitate all three with bouquet.
26.2 Mr. Aashish Rego: Now we have come to the end, if any of the matter, any
Issue, any Question with the permission of the Chair,
27. Mr. Dilip Datta: Mera yeh kehna hai ki hamme kuch senior members bhi hain.
Jaise main Dilip Sen ji Ka Naam le raha hoon. Meri Ichchha hai ki Dilip Sen ji
ko Committee mein liye jaye. Agar aisa ho sakta hai toh bahut achchee baat
hai. That’s not force, I just insist you.

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Mr. Dilip Sen: Bhai mujhe ye pata laga hai ki yahan aane ke liye aap ke dues
ya fees clear honee chahiye. Main yeh kehna chahta hoon ki aap ki tarah aur
bhi hain jinhonne Music ko 30-30 ya 35-35 saal diya hai. Toh main yeh nahi
keh raha ki sirf Dilip Sen ko lo. Aap hum jaise teen-Char logon ki Senior logon
ki Committee banyein aur kuch suggestation hum sabhi ke liye jayein, kyonki
jab hum naye the to us samay hum samay nahi de paate the kaam mein itne
busy the. Same cheez aaj aap logon ke saath hai. Main jab bhi Office jaata hoon
toh mujhe nahi lagta ye Music Directors ka Office hai. Mujhe aisa lagta hai ki
kisi municipality ke office mein aa gaya hoon. Hamari alag committee rahegi
to aapki post se hame koi matlab nahi hai. Kuch suggestion ham se liye jayein
aur kya nehtar ho sakta hai uspar kaam ho! Ham wo power nahi chahte ki kisi
ko rakh lein ya hata dein. Bus char-paanch-chhah logon ki ek committee ho jo
jismein Pyare bhai hon, Anandji bhai ho, Mandheer bhai ho…
27.1 Mr. Raji Singh, “Hamara Office aisa isliye hai ki jo funds ya fees aani chahiye
members ki wo aati nahin hai. Jahan tak aapka suggestion hai ki seniors ki team
bane to aisa ho sakta hai, for consolidation..
27.2 Mr. Dilip Datta, “Fund raise karne ki alag se pahal ho sakti hai. Main b hi
committee meinb saha hoon aur 15-20 saal pehle bhi yehi prashn utha tha. Fund
raise karne wala. Par kabhi is par kuch hua hee nahin. Meeting ki aur saare
apne apne kaamo mein nikal jaaya karte the..tab office Mahalaxmi mein hua
karta tha aur bahut bada bhi nahi tha par theek tha, zyadatar meetings apne
chairman Raviji ke ghar hua karti thin.
27.2 Mr. Raju Singh, “Funds ki sada kami rahi hai… IPRS ko lekar ladai rahi. Toh
bahut sari legal fights rahi. Ek time pe IPRS se lad rahe the.
27.3 Mr. Rego, “Aapko shayad pata nah o ki bahut sare composers ne Legal fight
ke liye paise diye aur aaj sab kuch hone ke bawajood hamare sar pe ek Crore
ka karz hai. Office achchha rakhne se zyada hamare liye Copyright amendment
bill pass karvana zaroori tha. Members ko unka vajib haque dilane zaroori tha.

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27.4 Mr. Lalit Pandit, “Dekhiye abhi tak kafee kuch theek hua hai. Aap yadi chahte
ho ki ek chhoti sub-committee bane jo fund raising jaisi activities karna chahe
to swagat hai…hum aisi ek sub committee bana dete hain.

27.5 Mr. Rego, “Yadi aap chahte hain to hum ek senior members ki Advisory
committee bana dete hain. Aap logon ki jo specific problems hain usko hum
address karenge.

27.8 Mr. Dilip Datta, “Main ye kehna chahta hoon ki Dilipji (Sen) dil ke itne
achchhe hain ki ye achchha hi karenge.

27.9 Mr. Lalit Pandit, “Aap ki ek sub-committee ban rahi hai…aap ek road map
banaiye…baat khatm

30. Mr. Ashutosh Pathak, “Fund raising ke liye sujhav hai ki Song Registration ki
fees rakh dee jaye…firt 30 songs free baad mein 100 Rupees per song

30.1 Mr. Rego, “Theek hai yadi sabhee aisa chahte hain toh….ya sabhi chahein to
per song Rs 100 kar dete hain… Ok?

30.2 (House accepts unanimously)

Since there are no questions and querries, I think with this I conclude the meet aap
sabka bahut bahut Shukriya and I invite you all to have dinner with all of us.

By and on behalf of the Executive Committee

Sd/-
President

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Glimpses of Previous AGM

Held at Flag’s Banquet, Andheri (West), Mumbai on 28th September, 2019